Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2020, 09:15:51 PM »
It’s easy to make claims.

Especially with witness IDs

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2020, 09:59:09 PM »
:D very good Martin but I think this would've been more appropriate


You think?

Looks like?

Hmmmmmm

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2020, 12:08:37 AM »
Off the top of my head and without really looking into it - Truly, Shelley, Lovelady and Pauline Sanders.

How many are we looking for?

Well, we can strike Messrs Shelley & Lovelady off your extremely short list of those who noticed Officer Baker & Mr Truly run into the building------------as you yourself believe that they did not look back and see what they say they saw from where they place themselves (in their WC testimonies) some 3+ minutes (!) after the shooting. Or do you believe Officer Baker & Mr Truly did not in fact run up those steps just after Darnell's camera stops filming them?

We can also strike Mr Truly off your list, as it's his dash into the building we're talking about!

Ms Sanders seems to be all you've got, and even that's reported speech------------and it would seem she only noticed Officer Baker (not Mr Truly).

I can help you out by adding Mr Molina, who went on the record about seeing Mr Truly (but not Officer Baker) run into the building v. shortly after the shooting.

So! Not a single person seems to have noticed both Mr Truly and Officer Baker conspicuously dash up those steps and enter the building vestibule.

You will no doubt explain this curious circumstance by saying everyone was in shock about what had just happened and so was not exactly alert to other things going on around them. Fine. Now go apply that thought to the inconspicuous nobody you say couldn't possibly have been standing in that entranceway for a very short time without having been noticed by lots of people!  Thumb1:

Now for your list of all the people who noticed our inconspicuous nobody leaving the building several minutes after the shooting:

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« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 12:17:52 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2020, 12:11:09 AM »
Oh yeah - Oswald must have seen him as well as he was stood right by the entrance fishing some cigarettes out of his handbag but that's in Fritz's 'missing notes'  8)

Once again, Mr O'Meara, quit making a fool of yourself and educate yourself as to the actual provenance of these notes:



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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2020, 01:29:02 AM »
Well, we can strike Messrs Shelley & Lovelady off your extremely short list of those who noticed Officer Baker & Mr Truly run into the building------------as you yourself believe that they did not look back and see what they say they saw from where they place themselves (in their WC testimonies) some 3+ minutes (!) after the shooting. Or do you believe Officer Baker & Mr Truly did not in fact run up those steps just after Darnell's camera stops filming them?


Calm down Alan, ranting only makes you say stupid things. Baker didn't disappear into thin air when he reached the steps. Both Shelley and Lovelady testified to seeing Baker approaching the steps, that I think they lied about how long it took Baker to get there doesn't matter and the reason "they did not look back" is because they are not the individuals identified walking away in Darnell, the film that shows Baker running at speed towards the steps.

We can also strike Mr Truly off your list, as it's his dash into the building we're talking about!

This is exactly the kind of stupid thing ranting makes you say. Because Truly follows Baker up the steps he can't be included as a witness?? Really Alan? Deep breaths.

Ms Sanders seems to be all you've got, and even that's reported speech------------and it would seem she only noticed Officer Baker (not Mr Truly).

Reported speech? As in - reported to Special Agents Robert E. Hasam and Robert J. Anderson? Find a happy place.

You will no doubt explain this curious circumstance by saying everyone was in shock about what had just happened and so was not exactly alert to other things going on around them. Fine. Now go apply that thought to the inconspicuous nobody you say couldn't possibly have been standing in that entranceway for a very short time without having been noticed by lots of people!

I will no doubt explain this curious circumstance by saying the majority of people at the steps were never called to testify and of those who did the majority reported seeing Baker approaching the steps (remember, Baker didn't disappear once he reached the steps). And just to clarify - the antisocial nature of the nobody in question made him very conspicuous.

Now for your list of all the people who noticed our inconspicuous nobody leaving the building several minutes after the shooting:

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I think you'll find this is a list of all those who place your conspicuous creep on the steps. And breathe out  8)
« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 01:34:01 AM by Dan O'meara »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2020, 02:05:55 AM »
  Let's Not forget that MOTORCYCLE Officer Baker allegedly came Roaring around the corner of Houston/Elm St. We have All seen the still frame pics of people standing at ground level and being stretched across the front of the TSBD. This Shoulda been a Ringling Bros worthy show unfolding right in front of their eyes. Officer Baker Roaring around the corner onto Elm St, then HASTILY parking his bike at the curb and then SPRINTING across the Elm St Extension toward the TSBD is right outta an episode of "Chips". Of ALL those Eyewitnesses standing in front of the TSBD, NONE of them has reported seeing Baker's alleged Derring-do Unfolding DIRECTLY in Front of them. 
« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 02:09:34 AM by Royell Storing »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2020, 02:13:18 AM »
Calm down Alan, ranting only makes you say stupid things. Baker didn't disappear into thin air when he reached the steps. Both Shelley and Lovelady testified to seeing Baker approaching the steps, that I think they lied about how long it took Baker to get there doesn't matter and the reason "they did not look back" is because they are not the individuals identified walking away in Darnell, the film that shows Baker running at speed towards the steps.

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Your desperation is showing, Mr O'Meara!

You believe this is Mr Lovelady and Ms Calvery in Darnell, right?---------------------



Now! Tell us where exactly you think Officer Baker and Mr Truly are at this same moment. That way, we can see how credible the WC testimony of your star co-witness Mr Lovelady re. his sighting of Officer Baker and Mr Truly is!  Thumb1:
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