Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Richard Gilbride

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1862 on: January 29, 2022, 05:51:02 PM »
Possibly it was one of the Houston St. warehouse guys, Franklin Wester or Gordon Smith. I'm working on a distant memory from my ROKC days around 2013, but I think neither of them acknowledged watching the motorcade. This photo looks like it was taken around 1:00 PM, so perhaps one of them walked up to the Depository to see what was going on. Just a guess. As far as I know there are no pictures of Wester or Smith, nor even Eddie Shields, who was the foreman down there. A bookkeeper in his 60s, H.S. Aiken, kept his office down there. Charles Givens occasionally also worked down there.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1863 on: January 29, 2022, 06:24:57 PM »
Possibly it was one of the Houston St. warehouse guys, Franklin Wester or Gordon Smith. I'm working on a distant memory from my (References & links to websites which contain pornographic images and/or abusive content directed at members of this Forum is strictly prohibited ) days around 2013, but I think neither of them acknowledged watching the motorcade. This photo looks like it was taken around 1:00 PM, so perhaps one of them walked up to the Depository to see what was going on. Just a guess. As far as I know there are no pictures of Wester or Smith, nor even Eddie Shields, who was the foreman down there. A bookkeeper in his 60s, H.S. Aiken, kept his office down there. Charles Givens occasionally also worked down there.

So prayerman was quiet possibly one of the tsbd guys that worked at the other warehouse? That destroys the prayerman theory.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1864 on: January 29, 2022, 06:36:33 PM »
The unidentified guy in the picture is Robert Edwards.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1865 on: January 30, 2022, 01:43:13 AM »
The Sixth Floor Museum has forwarded me a scan from the Darnell film, which has higher resolution than anything I've seen on the internet. I am going to seek permission from the copyright holder, which is NBC Universal, to post it on-line for the benefit of the research community.
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Photo-researchers should have much more to eleborate with this image. I am told it is a Full HD scan made at 1920 x 1080 pixels. The Museum is not sure which generation of Darnell film it originated from. Personally I can't imagine a newsfilm losing any significant amount of quality during the early phases of copying, and we don't even know whether this may in fact be a scan from the original film.

Hopefully NBC Universal will respond favorably during the coming week...

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Would I be right in understanding that you have been sent a scan of a single frame from the Darnell film clip? If so, is it the frame below?



Cf! Mr James Hackerott visited the Sixth Floor Museum on (I think) two occasions, and kindly shared with members of this forum a) sketches he made b) a tracing-------------------------



« Last Edit: January 30, 2022, 01:48:05 AM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1866 on: January 30, 2022, 02:52:49 AM »
I think it might be Freddie Kruger. The shiny thing is his glove.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1867 on: February 01, 2022, 08:51:30 PM »
I strongly suspect that the main reason the identification of Oswald was based on the "hairline" of the Prayer Man figure. A close-up of Darnell (taken from the Prayer Man website) reveals the figure does indeed appear to have a hairline similar to Oswald:



It must be noted that this picture is covered with "distortions", most probably a product of enhancement. These distortions are everywhere and consist of patches of horizontal lines close together. Look at Prayer Man's right elbow and you will see one very clearly. Note how it "drags" a darker colour into the elbow.
Now look at Prayer Man's head and you will see such a distortion. There is one that runs through the top of the head and carries on, cutting off the dark shadow of the door frame behind.
In the extreme close-up below this extended distortion is picked out with a red arrow:



Prayer Man's distinctive hairline is the product of distortions created by enhancing the picture.
It has nothing to do with Oswald's hairline.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1868 on: February 01, 2022, 10:20:30 PM »
I strongly suspect that the main reason the identification of Oswald was based on the "hairline" of the Prayer Man figure. A close-up of Darnell (taken from the Prayer Man website) reveals the figure does indeed appear to have a hairline similar to Oswald:



It must be noted that this picture is covered with "distortions", most probably a product of enhancement.

Exactly, so let's look at that frame in the unenhanced version, as shared by the superb Mr Robin Unger. The receding hairline is already quite evident in this unenhanced (i.e. undistorted) version-----------------



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