Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

But what about the NEXT day , Saturday when Oswald is being taken in the hallway and he’s stating that he “categorically denies these charges“?

Surely Oswald was by now been charged with some serious crime, therfore the reason for Oswald to make such statement?

Yet apparently not yet charged with shooting the POTUS, and that being reason not to shout his out front steps alibi?

As far as he is given to understand right up to his death on the Sunday, he is charged with shooting Officer Tippit and complicity (via rifle) in the murder of Pres. Kennedy. These are the charges he emphatically denies.

[Zeon Mason]

There is no statement as far (as I’m aware) in the JFK witness page from DPD officer Barnett about stopping an Oswald who was then “let go” because Truly vouched for him.

The time would have been between 2 min 30 sec post shots ( earliest) and 3 min sec ps ( latest) by Barnett’s own estimate, of himself locking the TSBD front door.
 Pierce Allman met the man he thinks was Oswald , just inside the front door, the door being partly open. ( his video statement)

But if this is Just literally after Baker/Truly entered, and Oswald is there in the doorway, apparently Allman was also oblivious to seeing Baker in the lobby or thru the clear glass doors (2nd set) when Allman does to the phones available in this 1st floor lobby area.


The timing for Allman to reasonably NOT have seen Baker in lobby or with Truly trying to open the counter top desk (thru the 2nd set of glass doors) would have to be approx 65-70 secs post shots when B/T are past this desk office area and traversing towards the rear elevators and stairwell. ( B/T just missed seeing Adams and Styles having exited a side door by the west elevator).

So my estimate for Pierce Allman of approx 60 sec post shots reaching the TSBD front door if the interview with Newmans is 30 sec or less, and distance is approx 250 ft or less is possibly verifiable via an 2013 or later interview with Allman.

Now why Mr Williams on one side and Pauline Sanders on the other side do not see Oswald or Truly is still a mystery

[Alan Ford]

There is no statement as far (as I’m aware) in the JFK witness page from DPD officer Barnett about stopping an Oswald who was then “let go” because Truly vouched for him.

The time would have been between 2 min 30 sec post shots ( earliest) and 3 min sec ps ( latest) by Barnett’s own estimate, of himself locking the TSBD front door.
 Pierce Allman met the man he thinks was Oswald , just inside the front door, the door being partly open. ( his video statement)

But if this is Just literally after Baker/Truly entered, and Oswald is there in the doorway, apparently Allman was also oblivious to seeing Baker in the lobby or thru the clear glass doors (2nd set) when Allman does to the phones available in this 1st floor lobby area.


The timing for Allman to reasonably NOT have seen Baker in lobby or with Truly trying to open the counter top desk (thru the 2nd set of glass doors) would have to be approx 65-70 secs post shots when B/T are past this desk office area and traversing towards the rear elevators and stairwell. ( B/T just missed seeing Adams and Styles having exited a side door by the west elevator).

So my estimate for Pierce Allman of approx 60 sec post shots reaching the TSBD front door if the interview with Newmans is 30 sec or less, and distance is approx 250 ft or less is possibly verifiable via an 2013 or later interview with Allman.

Not sure what the big issue is here, Mr Mason. Mr Oswald went outside to watch the P. Parade; just after the shooting he had the encounter with Officer Baker & Mr Truly at the front entrance; he remained in that area a little longer; then came another man running up the steps asking for guidance.

Now in between the Baker-Truly encounter and the 'Where's the telephone?' encounter it's possible Mr Oswald nipped into the small storage room just by the front stairs (to retrieve something? or dispose of his coke bottle & lunch remains? to check on the curtain rods he had left there?) and was seen there by Mr Ochus Campbell and whoever Mr Campbell had come running in with (Ms Reid perhaps--------was this the real site of her 'Somebody shot the President' encounter with Mr Oswald?).

Alternatively, the first-floor storage room may have been a crude first re-draft of the actual front entrance encounter-----------to be replaced within hours with the more considered fiction of a second-floor lunchroom encounter

Now why Mr Williams on one side and Pauline Sanders on the other side do not see Oswald or Truly is still a mystery

Not a single person on the steps at the time will go on the record with a recollection of having seen both Officer Baker and Mr Truly running into the building. For some, one can allow that their focus of attention was elsewhere. But for everyone, including Mr Frazier? Quite a stretch, isn't it?

Mr Lovelady's remarks to Mr Jarman explains the weird invisibility of the two men: they had their encounter with Mr Oswald right there, at the front entrance. Just like Mr Oswald said.

 

[Alan Ford]

To those say 'Oswald can't be Prayer Man because no one saw him there' I have two simple questions:

1) How many people in that crowded front entrance area a minute or two after the shooting had a clear recollection of Mr Oswald's a) presence there b) encounter with the man seeking a telephone?

2) What do you conclude from the answer to 1)?

[Zeon Mason]

It SEEMs to defy probability, however Oswald is basically a nobody at this point in time and so I guess it’s possible for such person to be virtually invisible

DPD cop with gun drawn in white helmet  on the other hand and a well known “and recognizable Boss” also having his hat on, it’s probably going to require Duncan’s Gorilla Unseen in the very midst of basketball players 😳

[Alan Ford]

It SEEMs to defy probability, however Oswald is basically a nobody at this point in time and so I guess it’s possible for such person to be virtually invisible

One might compare the fact that Mr Oswald was seen down on one around noon by Messrs Shelley and Piper. What's striking here is that, in a space where plenty of folk will have been circulating at that time, only two people noticed Mr Oswald. Weird, right? Not really. Being a nondescript nobody at this point, he was as you say virtually invisible to people. That continues to hold for the time of the assassination and for the minutes leading up to his exit from the Depository: Mr Oswald was, up to his arrest, a nondescript nobody.

DPD cop with gun drawn in white helmet  on the other hand and a well known “and recognizable Boss” also having his hat on, it’s probably going to require Duncan’s Gorilla Unseen in the very midst of basketball players 😳

Quite! There was evidently something about Officer Baker and Mr Truly's entry into the building that induced blindness/amnesia in those still on the front steps at that time. I believe this something can safely be identified based on what Mr Oswald said in interrogation, what DPD were telling the press later that day and what Mr Lovelady told Mr Jarman within minutes of the assassination: Officer Baker and Mr Truly had their encounter with Mr Oswald right there at the front entrance, right after the shots had rang out.

 

[Walt Cakebread]

But what about the NEXT day , Saturday when Oswald is being taken in the hallway and he’s stating that he “categorically denies these charges“?

Surely Oswald was by now been charged with some serious crime, therfore the reason for Oswald to make such statement?

Yet apparently not yet charged with shooting the POTUS, and that being reason not to shout his out front steps alibi?

Lee wouldn't have stated an alibi ....He thought that it was supposed to appear as though he had fired at JFK.   He wanted Castro to believe that he had tried to shoot JFK....    So he surely wouldn't have denied doing it .   I truly do not know WHEN Lee became aware that JFK had been killed.