Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Rick Plant]

I'm on the record as stating a fact.
Frazier puts himself at the top of the front entrance steps by the rail as the 'parade' goes by. Weigman proves, beyond question, that this is not the case.

Actually, you're stating a falsehood. Weigman doesn't "prove" anything because Buell Frazier wasn't visible due to the darkness of the shadows.   

Looks like you left out this important information Mr. O'meara.

BALL - We have got a picture taken the day of the parade and it shows the President's car going by. Now, take a look at that picture. Can you see your picture any place there?

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't, because I was back up in this more or less black area here.

[Dan O'meara]

Actually, you're stating a falsehood. Weigman doesn't "prove" anything because Buell Frazier wasn't visible due to the darkness of the shadows.   

Looks like you left out this important information Mr. O'meara.

BALL - We have got a picture taken the day of the parade and it shows the President's car going by. Now, take a look at that picture. Can you see your picture any place there?

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't, because I was back up in this more or less black area here.

No I'm not stating a falsehood Rick.

I said:

"Frazier puts himself at the top of the front entrance steps by the rail as the 'parade' goes by."

Mr. BALL - Were you near the steps?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; I was, I was standing about, I believe, one step down from the top there.
Mr. BALL - One step down from the top of the steps?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; standing there by the rail.
Mr. BALL - By steps we are talking about the steps of the entrance to the Building?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. FRAZIER - We have a bar rail running about half way up here. This was the first step and I was standing right around there.

Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; you can see, just see, the top, about the top rail there, was standing right in there.

Mr. BALL - Did you stand there for 30 minutes or--tell us how long you stayed there?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I stood there until the parade come by.

Frazier testifies that he is stood by the rail at the top of the steps of the front entrance and that he is stood there until the "parade come by".
Do you dispute that? Is that a fact or not.

I also wrote:

"Weigman proves, beyond question, that this is not the case."



Above is a still from the Wiegman film. Frazier is nowhere to be seen. Wiegman does indeed prove Frazier was not in the position he specifically testified to being.
Do you dispute that?

Please explain the "falsehood" contained in the statement I made.

[Dan O'meara]

Well Dan, members usually don't copy and paste a reply that was addressed to another member from several months ago (October 4, 2020) in their current reply (March 11, 2021) to a different member which has nothing to do with the current discussion. There's no point to that especially when you replied to my post that was directed at Mr. Ford.

Just read the post Rick. It's fairly self -evident and you were wrong to go off half-cocked about it.
It was your mistake, not mine.

And still you haven't answered any of my questions or provided a single shred of evidence for your bogus Sarah Stanton as Prayer Man claim.

The only claim I'm making as far as Stanton is concerned is that the case for her being Prayer Man is far superior to the case for it being Oswald. Stanton is known to have been on the top landing as was witnessed there by others. This alone makes her case superior.
There is not one scrap of evidence for Oswald being on the top step - literally nothing. But this does not deter some researchers from pushing this  with an almost evangelical zeal. I made the mistake of questioning it and was immediately attacked and I'm not having it.
Earlier in the thread you posted this:

"They want to take a man pictured in the photograph and claim it's a 300+ pound woman. "

What "man" were you referring to?

[Rick Plant]

Just read the post Rick. It's fairly self -evident and you were wrong to go off half-cocked about it.
It was your mistake, not mine.

I didn't make any "mistake". You replied to me with a post from October 4, 2020 that you made to another member that had nothing to do with the current discussion we were having.

The only claim I'm making as far as Stanton is concerned is that the case for her being Prayer Man is far superior to the case for it being Oswald. Stanton is known to have been on the top landing as was witnessed there by others. This alone makes her case superior.

There is no "superior case" for Stanton being the Prayer Man because she never placed herself there, other witnesses don't place her there, her family already said PM wasn't her, and her physical appearance automatically disqualifies her.     

And you still never told me how Stanton was able to appear in your "claimed location" when she was standing on the opposite side confirmed by two witnesses. How did she get there?       

There is not one scrap of evidence for Oswald being on the top step - literally nothing. But this does not deter some researchers from pushing this  with an almost evangelical zeal. I made the mistake of questioning it and was immediately attacked and I'm not having it.

Well, when you try to make a hefty claim with no evidence then you should expect some pushback from researchers. 

Oswald isn't the figure in question here. Sarah Stanton is. The Prayer Man is not Sarah Stanton based on her own FBI testimony, physical appearance, her family stating it's not her, and eye witness accounts.

See, your goal is to keep Oswald out as a potential candidate at any cost, so you try to throw a 300+ pound fat woman into the mix by pretending she is the Prayer Man. That's why your claim is ridiculous. Plus you never can offer any real evidence for your claim because there isn't any.         

Earlier in the thread you posted this:

"They want to take a man pictured in the photograph and claim it's a 300+ pound woman. "

What "man" were you referring to?

The unknown man who is standing there that isn't Sarah Stanton. 

[Alan Ford]

Above is a still from the Wiegman film. Frazier is nowhere to be seen.

[Zeon Mason]

That Mr. Ford photo illustrates perfectly Mr.Plant’s question : How could Stanton get to that west corner of the landing.

It’s a question that I should have asked myself way back when I thought the corner was a logical place for a 300 lb woman to be.

With  BWF and Mr.  Shelly and Mr. Williams there on that 4’width landing then 2’ at least is taken up leaving a very narrow thruway which I doubt the 300 lb round woman would choose to
attempt to squeeze thru

Especially

When an easier place to move from her blocking the door position beside Pauline Sanders, is simply  to move FORWARD and down a step or 2 to the position that Mr. Ford has identified as the person with both hands raised to shield face from sunlight.

This position is where Lovelady and Frazier seem to suggest is where Stanton was located.

The bottle at the steps, the bottle in the right hand, the bottle in the raised forehand in Altgens, the dark clothing, sleeves rolled up, the Hosty note, the corner being a logical place for the “loner” Oswald to stand, the narrow thruway which only a slender 130lb Oswald could probably navigate without being noticed...

It’s adding up FAR in favor of PM = Oswald and virtually null and void that PM could plausibly be Stanton.

[Frederick Clements]

 Two questions.

 Why was the Hosty note about Oswald watching p parade hidden from public for several decades?


 Why is NBC refusing to release the original Wiegman and Darnell films?

 Fred