Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1323 on: February 22, 2021, 12:21:02 AM »
...a typical 1963 coke bottle

So now I’m wondering if this is so kind of speciality drink and that during the time of 12:01-12:14, that Oswald has “gone out”as possibly Eddie Piper has heard, in order to buy this speciality type of drink.

This bottle probably has Oswalds (PM)prints on it

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1324 on: February 22, 2021, 02:48:53 AM »
Nevertheless, from Bakers and Trulys WC testimony  neither saw anything in
Oswalds hands such as a bottle.

Well, as least after Baker scratched that part out of this affidavit.



Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1325 on: February 22, 2021, 03:06:17 AM »
Well, as least after Baker scratched that part out of this affidavit.



One has to wonder WHY Baker scratched out the "drinking a coke" entry.....???

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1326 on: February 28, 2021, 10:17:15 AM »


Because Mrs Reid has made a very early FBI statement of having seen Oswald in the 2nd floor office very soon AFTER shots fired, then it became imperative to establish a timeline to make sure Baker was seeing Oswald BEFORE Mrs Reid, otherwise there might be a potential plausible alibi for Oswald .

there was probably  effort made to avoid contradictions between Baker and Reid.

If Oswald drank some portion of the coke during Bakers encounter, then it might be questioned why Reid would have seen the bottle as full.

Plus, the theory is that Oswald has just run down 4 flights staircases in haste to escape TSBD, so drinking a coke already in hand just 5  secs after “diverting just in time to avoid running into Baker and Truly “ might raise a question.

So easy fix: strike out “drinking a coke”

What about the “light brown jacket” which was definitely in contrast to Reid seeing Oswald in only a T-shirt?

Baker could “fix” his early light brown jacket description as who would believe he could mistake a  white T-shirt as light brown jacket?

The best fix they could do was to have Baker in WC testimony explain how he mistook the Oswald long sleeve brown shirt as a jacket.

They left the issue of T-shirt Oswald to the speculation for the public hopingfor the “Oswald must have taken off his brown shirt just after Baker left the lunchroom”

And The Story becomes Oswald must bought a coke AFTER  now that Baker, and Truly 2 now, In WC statement disavow seeing a coke.

So the Mrs Reid sort has been preserved as best they could do and Belin has done his stopwatch timeline to fix the story and everyone is satisfied now.

Except about 75% of the public which Hoover and LBJ were trying to convince that there was no conspiracy.








Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1327 on: February 28, 2021, 12:48:18 PM »
One has to wonder WHY Baker scratched out the "drinking a coke" entry.....???

That's an easy one. Every second Oswald needed to work the machine and get the Coke out takes time away from the time he was supposed to have used to come down from the 6th floor.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1328 on: February 28, 2021, 03:40:11 PM »
One has to wonder WHY Baker scratched out the "drinking a coke" entry.....???

But left the entry clearly readable.....   Hmmmmm....Me thinks there was a slimy lawyer at his elbow.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1329 on: February 28, 2021, 10:57:26 PM »
That's an easy one. Every second Oswald needed to work the machine and get the Coke out takes time away from the time he was supposed to have used to come down from the 6th floor.

That's the obvious answer.....So the entire report that Baker had delivered on the afternoon of 11/22/63 should have been deleted.  But that's NOT what the slick lawyers wanted....  The wanted Baker's affidavit written a way that they could expunge the "drinking a coke" episode but still leave that entry readable.   

They could easily have re-written the entire affidavit and simply left out the "drinking a Coke" .... But that is NOT what they wanted....