Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1274 on: February 12, 2021, 01:20:47 AM »
I worked that out many years ago, (By finding the width of the windows)  before I knew about the diagrams the  detectives had created of the sixth floor which show the length and width of the building.  And there are several diagrams of the various floors of the TSBD in the WR , (page150) that confirm the building was 100 feet square.

This diagram shows the front of the TSBD was about 80 ft




Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1275 on: February 12, 2021, 01:39:36 AM »
This diagram shows the front of the TSBD was about 80 ft



Look.... The scale starts at 5 feet negative   so the full length is 25 feet .....

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1276 on: February 12, 2021, 02:09:12 AM »
Look.... The scale starts at 5 feet negative   so the full length is 25 feet .....

My bad Walt, missed that.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1277 on: February 12, 2021, 05:54:30 PM »
Mr Oswald said he bought the Coke BEFORE the motorcade, reason being he bought the Coke before the motorcade

Mr Oswald said he bought the Coke BEFORE the motorcade, reason being he bought the Coke before the motorcade

Actually Nobody, not even Lee, could know whether he bought the coke BEFORE the motorcade arrived....He said that he interrupted his lunch to go to the second floor to buy a coke.....   and while he was there, a motorcycle policeman burst into the lunchroom.   

It would appear that Lee went to the 2nd floor at about the same time the motorcade was approaching the TSBD. 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1278 on: February 12, 2021, 06:40:16 PM »
My bad Walt, missed that.

Very easy to make that mistake....But refreshing to see a poster who readily admits an error... :)

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1279 on: February 12, 2021, 07:34:31 PM »
Mr Oswald said he bought the Coke BEFORE the motorcade, reason being he bought the Coke before the motorcade

Actually Nobody, not even Lee, could know whether he bought the coke BEFORE the motorcade arrived....He said that he interrupted his lunch to go to the second floor to buy a coke.....   and while he was there, a motorcycle policeman burst into the lunchroom.   

It would appear that Lee went to the 2nd floor at about the same time the motorcade was approaching the TSBD.

It would appear that you think you can still get away with pretending this doesn't exist............


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1280 on: February 12, 2021, 08:40:28 PM »
It would appear that you think you can still get away with pretending this doesn't exist............



"O stated that he was present for work at the TSBD on the morning of 11/22, and at noon he went to lunch. He went to the 2nd floor to get a Coca-Cola, to eat with his lunch, and returned to the 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch the P. parade. " 

This will probably be a futile effort to show a man with his head firmly inserted that he's incorrect in his belief.... But I'll try.

"O stated that he was present for work at the TSBD on the morning of 11/22, and at noon he went to lunch."

 "at noon he went to lunch."

Lee may have discontinued working at NOON, but of course he didn't start eating his lunch at noon.... We can know that because he stated that he ate his lunch in the first floor lunchroom....  But that lunchroom was full of TSBD warehouse workers at noon, and NOBODY saw Lee there while they were eating their lunch....Furthermore Lee said that He saw Jarman and Norman pass by the 1st floor lunchroom as he was eating his lunch.  J& N testified that the walked by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:27.  Thus there are many unaware witnesses who corroborate Lee's  alibi.

""He went to the 2nd floor to get a Coca-Cola, to eat with his lunch, and returned to the 1st floor to eat lunch."

It is a fact that Lee was approached in the 2nd floor lunchroom, just after buying a coke,  by DPD officer Marrion Baker.  We know that time was about 12:32 .....  and after Baker departed from the 2nd floor lunchroom, Lee returned to the 1st floor lunchroom.

(He) "Then went outside to watch the P. parade. "

This scribbled statement does not make the information the absolute "cast in stone", honest-to- God truth.

IF Lee actually related that information to  Bookhout then it's entirely possible that Lee believed that the P. parade was passing by at the time he headed for the front door.     Or it's also possible that Bookhout misunderstood or misinterpreted what Lee said.    When Bookhout transcribed his scribbled notes on 11/25/63  and typed up his 302 to be filed he wrote:

quote..."He stated that he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca- Cola from the soft drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr Truly was present and verified that he was an employee, and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building.  Oswald stated that he took his coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunchroom.   He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home.".... unquote   

Pssst...Mr Ford.. Perhaps you can extract your head enough to see that when Bookhout used the scribbled notes to type up his report he said NOTHING about the P. parade passing when Lee went outside.....