Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1246 on: February 09, 2021, 12:32:40 AM »
I found the photo in this forum photo gallery of the Dr.Pepper bottle on the front steps and it’s definitely a SOLID white oval shaped label. There is NO diagonal dark slash thru it like the bottle the cop has in that other photo Mr. Ford posted earlier

SO THERE!!! It’s all connected now (IMO) quite nicely, except for Mr, Fords insistence on Oswald getting a coke from the2nd  floor lunchroom which has really no reason to have to be the case if Mrs Reid’s T shirt and coke story is being tossed aside

Even if there’s some way to reconcile Mrs Reid’s meeting with T shirt man as Oswald, it’s not really saying he did not have  a Dr. Pepper while at the position of PM

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Staying with my theory that the hand holding the Dr. Pepper bottle at the base allow approx half of that solid white label exposed to the camera of Weigman and is the reason for the extra white effect.

Is less probable if it were a coke which had only white cursive lettering and this much less area of white to cause such a solid white blotch as it appears imo.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1247 on: February 09, 2021, 01:21:40 AM »
I found the photo in this forum photo gallery of the Dr.Pepper bottle on the front steps and it’s definitely a SOLID white oval shaped label. There is NO diagonal dark slash thru it like the bottle the cop has in that other photo Mr. Ford posted earlier

SO THERE!!! It’s all connected now (IMO) quite nicely, except for Mr, Fords insistence on Oswald getting a coke from the2nd  floor lunchroom which has really no reason to have to be the case if Mrs Reid’s T shirt and coke story is being tossed aside

Even if there’s some way to reconcile Mrs Reid’s meeting with T shirt man as Oswald, it’s not really saying he did not have  a Dr. Pepper while at the position of PM

I’m
Staying with my theory that the hand holding the Dr. Pepper bottle at the base allow approx half of that solid white label exposed to the camera of Weigman and is the reason for the extra white effect.

Is less probable if it were a coke which had only white cursive lettering and this much less area of white to cause such a solid white blotch as it appears imo.

Why not simply accept Lee Oswald's statement. He said that he went to he 2nd floor lunchroom to get a.. Quote---"Coca -Cola"

And the soft drink machine in the 2nd floor lunch room was in fact a COKE machine it did not dispense Dr Pepper.
 

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1248 on: February 09, 2021, 04:58:27 AM »
Because
A. The bottle found at the very step that PM steps down too, by the west wall is NOT A COKE
B. The Dr.Pepper was Oswalds favorite drink, and it’s much easier to get from the ground floor machine than to have to climb up 18 steps and go thru 2 doors and enter into lunchroom and have to go back down 18 steps again
C, the COCA COLA white cursive lettering is MINIMAL white area on the bottle as opposed to the SOLID white oval shaped Dr.Pepper bottle. This the white label half exposed in Weigman film, above PMs hand holding at the base is the more probable
D. The Allen photo of Dr. Pepper bottle on the steps of TSBD in the slot recess on the very step  by PM is SOLID white oval logo WITHOUT the diagonal dark bar which makes it NOT the bottle seen in the hand of a cop in the photo Mr. Ford posted earlier here in this thread.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1249 on: February 09, 2021, 05:00:15 AM »
I found the photo in this forum photo gallery of the Dr.Pepper bottle on the front steps and it’s definitely a SOLID white oval shaped label.

There's an object in front of the bottle



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Mr, Fords insistence on Oswald getting a coke from the2nd  floor lunchroom

Not my insistence, Mr Oswald's!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1250 on: February 09, 2021, 05:16:42 AM »
Eureka! Maybe Mr. Ford has found the coke bottle that MR LOVELADY for certain did take out to the front steps.

 I can’t quite determine for certain if that’s another bottle beside the Dr. Pepper bottle , however if it is, it definitely does NOT have any significant area of white  label similar to The Dr. Pepper logo, hence reinforcing my proposition that a coke bottle with minimal white cursive lettering would NOT produce such an area of white blotch area as seen in PMs hand in Weigman film



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1251 on: February 09, 2021, 07:52:08 AM »
Eureka! Maybe Mr. Ford has found the coke bottle that MR LOVELADY for certain did take out to the front steps.

 I can’t quite determine for certain if that’s another bottle beside the Dr. Pepper bottle , however if it is, it definitely does NOT have any significant area of white  label similar to The Dr. Pepper logo, hence reinforcing my proposition that a coke bottle with minimal white cursive lettering would NOT produce such an area of white blotch area as seen in PMs hand in Weigman film

No, the Allen photograph shows what appears to be a Dr Pepper bottle with some object (not a bottle) in front of it.

If Prayer Man is right at the shadow line, we may be seeing sunlight catching some of the bottle..........


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1252 on: February 10, 2021, 08:05:14 PM »
The above example seems to confirm Arnold and Richey were together - Johnson was joined by Richey and Arnold.
It seems more likely Johnson misremembered as Holt and Jacob were down by the Stemmons sign with Sharon Simmons.

"Down by the Stemmons sign".  LOL.