Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1162 on: January 31, 2021, 12:39:47 AM »
Nope. Mr Holmes' recollection is somewhat compressed & muddled, but he gets the essentials of Mr Oswald's (truthful) claims right------------

1. Encounter between coke-in-hand Mr Oswald and officer (=Marrion L. Baker) at front entrance

2. Showing crewcut man (= Mr Pierce Allman) to nearest phone

3. No lunchroom encounter

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1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone

7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1163 on: January 31, 2021, 07:12:34 AM »
1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone

7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.



An indeterminate photo that could literally be anyone on the face of the Earth, this newspaper article, and Hosty's notes is all that is needed by you to proclaim the innocence of LHO? These vague and generalized remembrances somehow refute the similar but detailed statements of the other officials involved in the interrogation of LHO. Statements by the other interrogators, which are similar to each other and ultimately incriminating to LHO, are to be dismissed in favor of what you have posted and somehow misguidedly assigned great importance.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1164 on: January 31, 2021, 01:42:22 PM »

5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1165 on: January 31, 2021, 04:21:12 PM »
Aha! It's taken you weeks and weeks and weeks to bring yourself to tell us that, Mr O'Meara. What a tremendous breakthrough!

So------------the shadow is the edge of the wall of the front entrance, is it?

Here's Mr Lovelady with the shadow down the right side of his body---------



The green line here (a model of the doorway @ Darnell) shows where the shadowline actually fell at 12:30pm 11/22/63:



Now, Mr O'Meara-----------can you kindly indicate, using the image above, where on those steps you believe Mr Lovelady is standing in the Wiegman frame above?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1166 on: January 31, 2021, 11:55:51 PM »
A further research resource to help Mr O'Meara with his Great Demonstration of the Obvious Fact That Mr Lovelady in Wiegman---------



---------is 'Obviously' Catching a Big Chunk of Shadow from the Edge of the West Wall.............



(Credit: Mr James Hackerott)

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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1167 on: February 01, 2021, 03:36:44 AM »
A further research resource to help Mr O'Meara with his Great Demonstration of the Obvious Fact That Mr Lovelady in Wiegman---------



---------is 'Obviously' Catching a Big Chunk of Shadow from the Edge of the West Wall.............



(Credit: Mr James Hackerott)

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Do you know what Alan, I've had a good look into this and am unhappy to report that it doesn't look right.
I have to agree with you - it can't be a shadow from the corner of the wall being cast on Lovelady.
Go figure

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1168 on: February 01, 2021, 03:02:52 PM »
1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone

7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.



1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

1.  Lee arrives at the Domino room and notices it is now empty and all his fellow employees have departed to go out front to watch the parade, and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter the Shipping room), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

2. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before going outside.   While he's there in front of the coke machine, with the coke that he's just purchased in his hand,  the door flies open, and big motorcycle cop appears at the doorway, with his pistol in his hand.     .....  Then we have ....THE REST OF THE STORY.