Dr. David Mantik and “Back to the Left”

[Gary Craig]

Do a google search of: "i thought i was hit" bullet

I got 302,000 results

 In the first two pages of results, I found the following 9 cases:

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1999-01-09-9901090122-story.html

https://www.facebook.com/erinlischnews/videos/road-rage-incident-turns-violent-in-indy/2022318288070266/

https://porfidolaw.com/publications/boonton-officers-forgive-though-they-will-not-forget/

https://www.wsmv.com/news/survivor-shares-new-details-about-waffle-house-shooting/article_4afa1217-0e06-535d-b7b2-2094884968eb.html

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/winter-haven-neighbors-nervous-after-drive-by/67-300237006

https://aadl.org/node/391489

https://aadl.org/node/391489

http://obc.cclibraries.com/index.php/home/list-of-burials/61-community/686-samuel-c-tinney

http://memory.loc.gov/diglib/vhp/story/loc.natlib.afc2001001.00337/transcript?ID=sr0001



where the phrase I was searching for, indicated a story about someone under gunfire, who thought he was wounded, but was not. At this rate, I could have found 140,000 such stories.

Many of these people were not hit by anything, let alone “hit with such force”.

Yes, some of the 300,000 stories were about people who thought they were hit in one place, but where really hit somewhere else. But in about half the cases, of the stories referred to people who thought they were shot, but were not. I checked the first 19 stories and found that 9 of the 19 indicated such a story. At that rate, over 140,000 stories would have been people who thought they were hit by a bullet but were not.

And in stories where people talk about mistakenly believing they were shot while under gunfire, probably don’t always use the exact phrase "I thought I was hit". It might be “I thought I was wounded”. Or, “I thought I got hit”. Or “it seemed like I was wounded right then, but I wasn’t”. I probably only found the tip of the iceberg.


So, a witness who testifies “I thought I was hit” while under fire, does not mean that they were hit with great force. It doesn’t even mean they were hit by anything. Although in Hargis’s case, I believe a small piece of bone was found on his face, if memory serves me correctly. Too small to be seen in the Zapruder film but large enough to be felt and seen by someone standing near him.

So what is your point?

We have Hargis's contemporaneous statement.

He was to the rear and left of the Limo at Z312 - 313.

He was splattered with debris from the head shot with enough force to initially make him think he may have been struck by one of the rifle shots he was hearing.

[Joe Elliott]

So what is your point?

We have Hargis's contemporaneous statement.

He was to the rear and left of the Limo at Z312 - 313.

He was splattered with debris from the head shot with enough force to initially make him think he may have been struck by one of the rifle shots he was hearing.

What’s my point? That is common for people under gunfire, to initially think that they were hit, even though they were not. So, it does not require one to be hit with great force to make one think that one has been wounded. Or even to be hit by anything at all.

So, we have no evidence that Officer Hargis was struck with great force. And much evidence that he wasn’t. He wasn’t knocked off his motorcycle. He wasn’t wounded. From the Nix film, he continued riding right behind the limousine until several seconds after the head shot, when he and another officer stopped their motorcycles about the time Clint Hill reached the back of the limousine.

Drove through a bloody mist that was blown back on him? Yes. We have evidence of that. Hit with great force? No.

In the Nix film, stop at 0:28. Clint Hill has reached the limousine, and only then does Officer Hargis and another officer start to slow down and stop, two and half to three seconds after the headshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4mAVCprAU&list=PL0O5WNzrZqINVGfqd-M73A_czSbI__hat&index=4&t=0s

[Gary Craig]

What’s my point? That is common for people under gunfire, to initially think that they were hit, even though they were not. So, it does not require one to be hit with great force to make one think that one has been wounded. Or even to be hit by anything at all.

So, we have no evidence that Officer Hargis was struck with great force. And much evidence that he wasn’t. He wasn’t knocked off his motorcycle. He wasn’t wounded. From the Nix film, he continued riding right behind the limousine until several seconds after the head shot, when he and another officer stopped their motorcycles about the time Clint Hill reached the back of the limousine.

Drove through a bloody mist that was blown back on him? Yes. We have evidence of that. Hit with great force? No.

In the Nix film, stop at 0:28. Clint Hill has reached the limousine, and only then does Officer Hargis and another officer start to slow down and stop, two and half to three seconds after the headshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4mAVCprAU&list=PL0O5WNzrZqINVGfqd-M73A_czSbI__hat&index=4&t=0s