JFK vs Trump

[Tom Scully]

At least the U.S. was not fighting a declared war, or this would be treasonous...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile4.html
An intimidating array of individuals and forces wanted President Carter ousted from the White House in 1980. Some were driven by ambition; others by money; and still others by revenge. Together, they were over-powering.

Newly revealed documents, meant to stay hidden from the public, now show the interlocking relationships that operated behind the facade of American democracy: a chilling chapter of the October Surprise X-Files

    October Surprise X-Files (Part 4): The Money Trail

By Robert Parry

'Flying Dutchman'
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According to a 1984 CIA memo given to the task force, Casey recruited his old World War II spy chum John Shaheen and Iranian banker Cyrus Hashemi in 1979 to sell off property in New York City belonging to the shah's Pahlavi Foundation. At that time, the radical Islamic government in Teheran was claiming that property as its own and the shah's family was desperate for the cash.

The early Casey-Shaheen-Hashemi partnership on this Iranian business deal was important, because in 1980 Hashemi became one of President Carter's principal intermediaries on the hostage crisis and Casey was in charge of Ronald Reagan's campaign. The Casey-Shaheen-Hashemi connection made the October Surprise allegations far more credible.

Though Cyrus Hashemi died in 1986, his older brother, Jamshid, testified under oath before the task force that Cyrus had arranged July 1980 meetings in Madrid where Casey discussed the hostages with a radical Iranian mullah, Mehdi Karrubi. Jamshid's testimony was at the heart of the October Surprise charges that Casey derailed President Carter's hostage talks.

But the House task force cast aside the CIA memo and concluded that there was "no evidence" that Casey had met Cyrus Hashemi before the 1980 election in November. In the public report, the task force briefly mentioned the CIA memo, but deleted the identity of the foundation. The word "Pahlavi" was excised, thus obscuring the significance of the information. ...

Now... why would DCI Casey call William Safire four times on a Sunday to urge him to read the trabscript of a Barbara Walters television interview of two arms dealers originally introduced to John Shaheen's protege, Roy Furmark, by John Shaheen?

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/22/magazine/ten-myths-about-the-reagan-debacle.html

https://www.tampicohistoricalsociety.com/articles/article/1323792/188936.htm
Downs, Ruth Shaheen
The beloved wife of broadcaster, Hugh Downs, passed away on Tuesday, March 28, 2017, at the age of 95, at their home in Scottsdale, AZ. Her husband was by her side as she peacefully embarked on the "next great adventure," as she referred to Death. Ruth Downs was born in Illinois in the autumn of 1921 to Mike and Sadie Shaheen, who taught their only daughter she could do anything her three brothers could do if she was willing to work for it; and she proved them right throughout her remarkable life. During WWII, Ruth was decorated by Naval Intelligence for her work on an undercover assignment. When she graduated from college, she moved to Chicago and became a radio actress, as well as a director and producer. One of her employees was a young announcer by the name of Hugh Downs. Ruth and Hugh fell in love, married and had two children. Once married, Ruth gave up working outside the home until after the children were raised and grown. Hugh credits her for much of his success, and considered her his equal partner in Life. They were together for 75 years at the time of her passing. ...and to annually bring together her own descendants and those of her beloved brothers John, Raymond, and Richard Shaheen...

https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1278764428398379009

When it looks like "the fix is in" it usually is! Ethics? Disclosure? F**K it!

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/03/16/Barbara-Walters-as-secret-messsenger/7000542869200/
March 16, 1987
WASHINGTON -- Veteran ABC correspondent Barbara Walters acted as an agent for secret messages from an Iranian arms merchant to President Reagan shortly after the Iran arms-hostage scandal broke, The Wall Street Journal reported today.

'Arms merchant Manucher Ghorbanifar used television journalist Barbara Walters as a conduit to secretly pass on to President Reagan his views about U.S. arms sales to Iran and related matters,' the newspaper said...

This EVIDENCE of undisclosed conflicts of interests is no longer retrievable, image of my archived post in 2014:

https://www.legacy.com/news/celebrity-deaths/hugh-downs-1921-2020-former-anchor-of-20-20/
..He may be best known as the anchor for ABC’s late-night TV news show “20/20,” paired with Barbara Walters, who he worked with on the “Today Show.” He was on “20/20” from 1978 until his retirement in 1999.   

Shaheen's best man was H. James Rand.:
https://newspaperarchive.com/sterling-daily-gazette-may-01-1951-p-9/


May 28, 1952 :
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) ...
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83016244/1952-05-28/ed-1/seq-3/
Cleveland, Mr. James Rand of Cleveland, Ohio, also and Mr. John Shaheen of New York City. Mr. and Mrs. Link and Mr. and Mrs. Peterson are particularly en thusiastic about Key West and it's absence of Mosquitos. They said it was bard to understand how Key West could be so completely free of Mosquitos and flies by compar ison to the relatively ...



In 1968, Rand Development filed for bankrupcy, the three old OSS hands, Rand, Shaheen, McGaw, were still connected 23 years after the war ended. :


Seattle billionaire Keith McCaw, 49, dies at his home ...
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20021216&slug=mccaw16m
The patriarch, Elroy McCaw, built the family fortune owning radio and later television stations. But the family lost the fortune when Elroy McCaw died of a stroke in 1969, and dozens of claims and lawsuits piled in from creditors. The McCaw estate was declared bankrupt, and the family mansion, yacht and other assets were sold for cash.

A Telephone Visionary Who Is Cutting the Cords for ...
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/15/business/a-telephone-visionary-who-is-cutting-the-cords-for-consumers.html
Nov 15, 1992 By 1983, when it became clear Washington was going to license cellular telephone operators, Craig McCaw and one of his brothers, John Elroy McCaw Jr., began aggressively to buy cellular properties.

If you believe Robert E. Webster just happened to work for these three spooks, just happened to defect, Nixon just happened to show up announced in Moscow in 1965 as "Shaheen's lawyer" and Reagan and Shaheen just happened to be born in an Illinois town, pop. 700+ where Shaheen's father was the grocery store owner, I got a bank to sell you!

She was the shah's twin sister, David Rockefeller, "waited outside in the car"!

Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Deposit_and_Guaranty_Bank
Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank (HKDG) was a bank of Hong Kong established in 1981 which collapsed in 1984 with estimated losses of $100m. Its $20m capital came from Iran's Ashraf Pahlavi.The bank was founded on 22 January 1981 by John Shaheen, and featured on its board "Herminio Disini, known as Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos's personal bag man."

[Anthony Frank]

William J. Casey was a hardcore cocaine addict and an unwitting KGB puppet. As I state in my book:

“After the 1980 election, the main obstacles to exposing the KGB infiltration were Vice President Bush and a virulently corrupt CIA hierarchy. The corrupt hierarchy included CIA Director William J. Casey, who was addicted to cocaine and was most definitely a renegade CIA officer.

“I first met Casey at the CIA’s Chicago field office in early 1980. He stated he was the “Acting Director” of the CIA and later informed me that he was also Ronald Reagan’s campaign manager. Later that year, he told me that Reagan would be appointing him to be Director of the CIA after the election.

“As I had been looking forward to a new Presidential Administration that was not under KGB control, I tried to clarify with Casey that the KGB infiltration would finally be exposed and come to an end after he became CIA Director. When I directly asked him if he was going to expose the KGB infiltration after becoming CIA Director, his emphatic reply was, ‘No.’

“Shocked by his answer, I asked, ‘Why not?’

“And his exact words were, ‘Because they supply me with my cocaine.’

“As noted in Chapter 4, Casey manipulated Ronald Reagan into choosing his cocaine-addicted CIA colleague, George H. W. Bush, as a Vice Presidential running mate in the 1980 election.

“In 1984, I witnessed President Reagan angrily confront Casey about being manipulated into choosing Bush as a running mate, which happened only after the big push to supposedly ‘draft’ former President Gerald Ford ‘fizzled.’

“Reagan made it clear during the confrontation that Casey had given him every impression that he, Casey, was convinced Ford would accept the number two spot on the ticket. Casey finally admitted that he knew Ford had no intention of being Reagan’s running mate and that everything had been orchestrated to get Reagan to accept CIA officer George H. W. Bush as a running mate at the last minute.”

[Rick Plant]

He cut taxes on our companies. He cut huge amounts of burdensome business regulations. He cut taxes on nearly all working Americans, which of course left them with more money to spend in the economy.

No it is not. The Trump tax cuts' largest rate cuts for individual income tax rates went to the middle class:

1st bracket -- No change (since they already paid no income taxes, and Trump increased the Earned Income Tax Credit)
2nd bracket ($20K-$79K) -- 20% reduction (from 15% to 12%)
3rd bracket ($79K-$168K -- 12% reduction (from 25% to 22%)
4th bracket ($168K-$318K) -- 14.2% reduction (from 28% to 24%)
5th bracket ($318-$410K) -- 3.1% reduction (from 33% to 32%)
6th bracket ($410K-$610K) -- No reduction (stayed at 35%)
7th bracket ($610K-plus) -- 6.6% (from 39.6% to 37%)

The tax brackets are readily available online. Anyone can confirm that Trump gave the largest rate cuts to the second, third, and fourth brackets, where the vast majority of middle-income earners fall.

 

Criminal Donald gave billionaires and corporations millions of dollars in tax cuts in which they pay zero dollars in taxes while tripling the national debt and squeezing out the middle class. As a result, it destroyed the economy just like Bush did and allowed manufacturing and the country to slide into a steep recession.

On the issue of JFK vs Trump

JFK was a great man that served his country and wanted the best for America.

Criminal Donald is a draft dodging scumbag that used the office of the Presidency to enrich himself while having the worst scandal plagued administration in history including attempting an illegal coup to stay in power and spying on reporters and Democrats in Congress.       

[Rick Plant]

JFK was largely a do nothing president.  His primary attribute in history was that he took a good picture. He felt inconvenienced by the civil rights movement.

What a load of  

In terms of his character, he was a serial adulterer including using his position to take advantage of young girls, he lied about his numerous medical conditions during the 1960 campaign including having his doctor file false reports, he took a laundry list of drugs including an anti-psychotic mediation that would have disqualified him from the presidency.

You have your Presidents mixed up. You're describing Criminal Donald. 

Criminal Donald cheated on all of his wives including his current wife from Slovenia with porn stars in which he illegally paid them off while he was in office. That's a felony. Criminal Donald had his "doctors" falsify his medical reports while in office including his height and weight. He also lied about having "bone spurs" so he could get out of going to Vietnam. Criminal Donald abused Adderall for years and is a mentally deranged lunatic suffering from dementia. He was rushed to Walter Reed Hospital with a medical episode that his corrupt lying administration never divulged to the public the real reason why he was sent there. His failing health after that incident showed him in full decline with slurred speech and forgetfulness.     

Jackie was so concerned about their impact on him that she inquired about it.  Imagine if Trump were on such medications during a nuclear crisis like JFK faced in Cuba? He knowingly lied about a "missile gap" with Russia during the campaign.  A claim he knew Nixon could not rebut because the information was classified.  He used his father's influence to avoid a court martial for failing to maintain a proper watch in a combat zone which resulted in a large Japanese destroyer being able to ram and sink his small, mobile PT boat resulting in deaths among his crew.  A legacy of corruption and mostly do nothing results.  LBJ accomplished more in his first hundred days as president than JFK did in his entire lifetime.

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President Kennedy saved America with his steady leadership with the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was also a war hero and your orange messiah is a draft dodger and allowed the worst mass causality of deaths in history due to his negligence and refusal to protect this country from a pandemic. Criminal Donald is a pathological liar who will be indicted for his crimes. Criminal Donald never had any accomplishments except for stacking the courts with far right wing extremist judges, but even a robot could have done the same.   

[Mark A. Oblazney]

I moved most of my loooong post below, here :
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Michael T. Griffith, as described in the link I included above, is an author and a scholar. Why would he voluntarily post what I am responding to in this thread, especially after I pointed out he had posted three links to John Solomon's new website? Please consider that supporters of Trump seem to have no choice. They literally seem to post in spite of the facts, instead of in support of them. I consider myself responsive to facts, but I readily admit I am not gifted with the IQ or abilities of Michael Griffith. I am my own man. Maybe I am the lucky one!

The "author" of the first article cited by Michael as "useful", is the Trump supporting stooge, Sharyl Attkisson :

The "author" of the second and third article cited by Michael as "useful", is the Trump supporting stooge, Daniel Payne.:

This thread just keeps on giving, like the tide going out, revealing who has been swimming naked, from a discernment standpoint.

Michael, is this a sign of a conspiracy of medical science against Trump and Trump party?

Translation:
John Solomon is a discredited, Hannity fed and directed shill for Trump.:

Michael, from your "Trumped up", POV, science does not seem to matter, despite the Trump pressured FDA having no incentive to contradict Trump.

Are you also an anti-vaxxer? The choice of avoiding posting like an anti-science, "whack job" is entirely up to you! Why intentionally diminish your own credibility? Why support the mendacious, uninformed, BS of the world's worst person, considering the resources at his disposal VS the intentional sabotage and sunami of lies and other manipulations that are the "work product" of the 45th POTUS?

Since late February, the U.S. medical community has learned much more about treatment efficacy and is much better prepared, from testing to response.
You're posted opinion is in direct contrast to FDA policy revisions, and to the reality on the ground. You deliberately remove your bearings to conduct any reliable, science supported argument. Why deliberately post like a laughable knucklehead? Can you not discern the ridiculousness of the few posters in this thread who have been posting BS similar to what you are delivering in this thread page?

Florida has a pop. of about 20 million, older on average, than in many other U.S. states. It takes a larger increase of younger victims to move Florida's numbers because of the large, general pop. and the older than average age.

If your life depended on it, "Useful" cites from Michael's justthenews.com, or.....

Thanks, Tom+

[Richard Smith]

What a load of  

You have your Presidents mixed up. You're describing Criminal Donald. 

Criminal Donald cheated on all of his wives including his current wife from Slovenia with porn stars in which he illegally paid them off while he was in office. That's a felony. Criminal Donald had his "doctors" falsify his medical reports while in office including his height and weight. He also lied about having "bone spurs" so he could get out of going to Vietnam. Criminal Donald abused Adderall for years and is a mentally deranged lunatic suffering from dementia. He was rushed to Walter Reed Hospital with a medical episode that his corrupt lying administration never divulged to the public the real reason why he was sent there. His failing health after that incident showed him in full decline with slurred speech and forgetfulness.     

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President Kennedy saved America with his steady leadership with the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was also a war hero and your orange messiah is a draft dodger and allowed the worst mass causality of deaths in history due to his negligence and refusal to protect this country from a pandemic. Criminal Donald is a pathological liar who will be indicted for his crimes. Criminal Donald never had any accomplishments except for stacking the courts with far right wing extremist judges, but even a robot could have done the same.   

LOL.  I can see now why you usually just cut and paste fake news stories and debunked anti-Trump conspiracy theories.  Obviously, you have no direct knowledge of history.  It was JFK's weakness that emboldened the Russians to put missiles in Cuba.  Under a stronger president like Nixon, they would never have done so but they had complete disdain for JFK.  And it was only after JFK caved and agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey that Russia removed the Cuban missiles.  An enormous strategic win for the Soviet Union that the liberal media has spun into a fairy tale.  Not unlike PT 109 which should have resulted in JFK's court martial for dereliction of duty.

[Bill Chapman]

BILL CHAPMAN

[Rick Plant]

LOL.  I can see now why you usually just cut and paste fake news stories and debunked anti-Trump conspiracy theories.  Obviously, you have no direct knowledge of history.  It was JFK's weakness that emboldened the Russians to put missiles in Cuba.  Under a stronger president like Nixon, they would never have done so but they had complete disdain for JFK.  And it was only after JFK caved and agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey that Russia removed the Cuban missiles.  An enormous strategic win for the Soviet Union that the liberal media has spun into a fairy tale.  Not unlike PT 109 which should have resulted in JFK's court martial for dereliction of duty.

 

Nice try. I've never "cut and pasted a fake news story". You parrot bogus right wing propaganda.

JFK was a war hero and Criminal Donald is a draft dodger who will be indicted for all of his crimes.