JFK vs Trump

[Mark A. Oblazney]

I moved most of my loooong post below, here :
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Michael T. Griffith, as described in the link I included above, is an author and a scholar. Why would he voluntarily post what I am responding to in this thread, especially after I pointed out he had posted three links to John Solomon's new website? Please consider that supporters of Trump seem to have no choice. They literally seem to post in spite of the facts, instead of in support of them. I consider myself responsive to facts, but I readily admit I am not gifted with the IQ or abilities of Michael Griffith. I am my own man. Maybe I am the lucky one!

The "author" of the first article cited by Michael as "useful", is the Trump supporting stooge, Sharyl Attkisson :

The "author" of the second and third article cited by Michael as "useful", is the Trump supporting stooge, Daniel Payne.:

This thread just keeps on giving, like the tide going out, revealing who has been swimming naked, from a discernment standpoint.

Michael, is this a sign of a conspiracy of medical science against Trump and Trump party?

Translation:
John Solomon is a discredited, Hannity fed and directed shill for Trump.:

Michael, from your "Trumped up", POV, science does not seem to matter, despite the Trump pressured FDA having no incentive to contradict Trump.

Are you also an anti-vaxxer? The choice of avoiding posting like an anti-science, "whack job" is entirely up to you! Why intentionally diminish your own credibility? Why support the mendacious, uninformed, BS of the world's worst person, considering the resources at his disposal VS the intentional sabotage and sunami of lies and other manipulations that are the "work product" of the 45th POTUS?

Since late February, the U.S. medical community has learned much more about treatment efficacy and is much better prepared, from testing to response.
You're posted opinion is in direct contrast to FDA policy revisions, and to the reality on the ground. You deliberately remove your bearings to conduct any reliable, science supported argument. Why deliberately post like a laughable knucklehead? Can you not discern the ridiculousness of the few posters in this thread who have been posting BS similar to what you are delivering in this thread page?

Florida has a pop. of about 20 million, older on average, than in many other U.S. states. It takes a larger increase of younger victims to move Florida's numbers because of the large, general pop. and the older than average age.

If your life depended on it, "Useful" cites from Michael's justthenews.com, or.....

Thanks, Tom+

[Richard Smith]

What a load of  

You have your Presidents mixed up. You're describing Criminal Donald. 

Criminal Donald cheated on all of his wives including his current wife from Slovenia with porn stars in which he illegally paid them off while he was in office. That's a felony. Criminal Donald had his "doctors" falsify his medical reports while in office including his height and weight. He also lied about having "bone spurs" so he could get out of going to Vietnam. Criminal Donald abused Adderall for years and is a mentally deranged lunatic suffering from dementia. He was rushed to Walter Reed Hospital with a medical episode that his corrupt lying administration never divulged to the public the real reason why he was sent there. His failing health after that incident showed him in full decline with slurred speech and forgetfulness.     

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President Kennedy saved America with his steady leadership with the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was also a war hero and your orange messiah is a draft dodger and allowed the worst mass causality of deaths in history due to his negligence and refusal to protect this country from a pandemic. Criminal Donald is a pathological liar who will be indicted for his crimes. Criminal Donald never had any accomplishments except for stacking the courts with far right wing extremist judges, but even a robot could have done the same.   

LOL.  I can see now why you usually just cut and paste fake news stories and debunked anti-Trump conspiracy theories.  Obviously, you have no direct knowledge of history.  It was JFK's weakness that emboldened the Russians to put missiles in Cuba.  Under a stronger president like Nixon, they would never have done so but they had complete disdain for JFK.  And it was only after JFK caved and agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey that Russia removed the Cuban missiles.  An enormous strategic win for the Soviet Union that the liberal media has spun into a fairy tale.  Not unlike PT 109 which should have resulted in JFK's court martial for dereliction of duty.

[Bill Chapman]

BILL CHAPMAN

[Rick Plant]

LOL.  I can see now why you usually just cut and paste fake news stories and debunked anti-Trump conspiracy theories.  Obviously, you have no direct knowledge of history.  It was JFK's weakness that emboldened the Russians to put missiles in Cuba.  Under a stronger president like Nixon, they would never have done so but they had complete disdain for JFK.  And it was only after JFK caved and agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey that Russia removed the Cuban missiles.  An enormous strategic win for the Soviet Union that the liberal media has spun into a fairy tale.  Not unlike PT 109 which should have resulted in JFK's court martial for dereliction of duty.

 

Nice try. I've never "cut and pasted a fake news story". You parrot bogus right wing propaganda.

JFK was a war hero and Criminal Donald is a draft dodger who will be indicted for all of his crimes.   

[Rick Plant]

Those of us who have studied, researched and written of JFK the past 57 years know his history, his legacy. What he stood for; what he represented. Perhaps, no politician of the 20th century considering he served as POTUS for only a thousand days has received the attention John Kennedy has. He was a man of principle. He was a man of integrity. He served during world war 2. He had a vision for America. “We go to the moon not because it is easy but because it is hard”. Leadership.

What has Donald Trump achieved in his first term? Every day, there are new outrages, to be sure. We would need a list of more than twenty-seven complaints if we were to enumerate a lifetime of Trump’s misdeeds, from defrauding US tax authorities and obstructing justice to violating the Constitution. He has invited our enemies to interfere with our elections to help him win, then sought to do it again. He has misused federal resources, inappropriately elevated his own family members, and enriched his own businesses. He has repeatedly attacked the First and the Fourteenth Amendments. He has had infants thrown in cages and denied relief to Puerto Rico in the wake of Hurricane Maria at the cost of thousands of lives. He has gutted environmental protections and attacked alliances that the US spent decades building and maintaining. And now he has mismanaged the worst public health crisis in a hundred years, overseen the greatest economic crisis since the Depression, and attempted to use the US military to crush legitimate protests on the streets of the capital.

Lately, in the space of just a few days, he was revealed to have endorsed concentration camps in China and to have again sought the assistance of a foreign adversary in winning a US election, was quoted as calling for the deaths and imprisonment of US journalists, defended the slave power traitors of the Confederacy, admitted that he suppressed testing during the pandemic because true data about the rate of infections would harm him politically, sought to fire more truthtellers in the administration and had his attorney general remove an official in charge of investigations into him and his supporters. He was reportedly briefed about a Russian scheme to place bounties on American and allied troops in Afghanistan, and not only did nothing about it but continued to act as an advocate for Putin. And so it goes on… before we even consider the many complaints about his character—his racism and misogyny, his ignorance and contempt for science and history, his lies, his narcissism, his vulgarity, his demagoguery. Has there ever been a president in US history so unable to relate to others, show an emotion besides anger, or view the world through any means but his own self-interest?  Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?

The GOP of today are nothing but a bunch of far right wing anti American extremists. They hate everything about what this country stands for, including our democracy, and they want it replaced with an authoritarian dictatorship with dementia riddled Crimnal Donald as their Supreme leader. The violent insurrection and their attempted coup on 1/6 makes it perfectly clear they wanted to overthrow our Government with an installed dictatorship.   

Criminal Donald had zero accomplishments, but if you look at it as a right wing extremist would, then he accomplished destroying our democracy and the office of the presidency which is what these right wing want because they are anti American fascists. Now we have the GOP traitors in Congress covering up the insurrection and dismantling voting rights of African Americans continuing their assault on our democracy. To normal thinking people this is destruction of democracy, but to right wing fascists, this is their entire goal which they fully believe are "accomplishments". This is why they worship Criminal Donald because he represents the fascist regime they crave.         

[Richard Smith]

Nice try. I've never "cut and pasted a fake news story". You parrot bogus right wing propaganda.

JFK was a war hero and Criminal Donald is a draft dodger who will be indicted for all of his crimes.   

JFK was a "war hero' only because his father was one of the richest and most influential men at the time JFK allowed his PT boat to be rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer due to his dereliction of duty.  Any other captain in that situation would have been court martialed for failure to maintain a proper lookout in a combat zone.  A PT boat was a small and mobile craft.  A large destroyer should not have gotten anywhere near it except for negligence on behalf of its Captain.  The military's report on the incident was authored by the same person JFK would later appoint to the Supreme Court.  Talk about fodder for a conspiracy theorist.  All the more amazing here is that someone who defends Oswald - the person who murdered JFK - thinks JFK was a hero. 

[Rick Plant]

JFK was a "war hero' only because his father was one of the richest and most influential men at the time JFK allowed his PT boat to be rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer due to his dereliction of duty.  Any other captain in that situation would have been court martialed for failure to maintain a proper lookout in a combat zone.  A PT boat was a small and mobile craft.  A large destroyer should not have gotten anywhere near it except for negligence on behalf of its Captain.  The military's report on the incident was authored by the same person JFK would later appoint to the Supreme Court.  Talk about fodder for a conspiracy theorist.  All the more amazing here is that someone who defends Oswald - the person who murdered JFK - thinks JFK was a hero.

 

Richard Smith is the ultimate conspiracy theorist. Nobody would "allow" their boat to be rammed by a Japanese destroyer.

On the other hand, JFK served his country and Criminal Donald did not. Donnie used his rich and influential father to fake medical reports claiming he had bone spurs to get out of going to Vietnam. He is a draft dodger. Then he mocked all of our troops who had to go calling them "losers and suckers". And some of these "losers and suckers" (as Trump calls them) still worships this anti American fraud. How pathetic is that?

Dereliction of duty came at the hands of Criminal Donald who allowed COVID-19 to decimate the United States of America by doing nothing to combat it. He called the virus a "Democrat hoax" and then in mid March 2020 reluctantly declared a "state of emergency" after COVID was ravaging our most populated states and cities. After that, he blamed Democratic Governors for his own faliures while mocking masks and telling people to inject disinfectants into their body, but these same right wingers that worship him still refuse to get vaccinated after they give him phony credit for the Pfizer vaccine he had nothing to do with. You can't make this stuff up.

615,213 dead Americans thanks to Criminal Donald and his dereliction of duty.