JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories

[Michael T. Griffith]

Too lazy or just plain stupid to make a minor effort to consolidate what's in front of you.

If you can't conduct yourself in a civil manner, I have no desire for further discussion with you.

You call LNers stuck in the past. And you bring up the decades-old nonsense about Kennedy's tailor-made clothing having some magical quality that prevented bunching.

Well, umm, tailor-made shirts are designed to fit the person well. Another "magical quality" that would have prevented Kennedy's shirt from bunching significantly would have been that the lower part of his back was pinning the shirt against the seat. Plus, photos and film of JFK 2-15 seconds before the first shot show that his coat was only slightly bunched.

The hole displacement in the back of the jacket and the back of the shirt are "in perfect millimeter-for-millimeter concert"? How kooky.

I take it you're unaware that the coat and shirt holes line up exactly? This has been known for decades. Both holes put the wound about 5 inches below the collar line.

The face sheet says the wound has the 14cm measurements. That's plotted on my 3D graphic and it works out to the C7 level. The face sheet was prepared by Boswell would stated in 1966 that the markings were not to be considered accurate, but the measurements were.

"Are Autopsy Face Sheets Supposed to be Drawn to Scale?" ( Link )

If the autopsy sheet is marked "verified," one logically assumes that it has been, well, "verified." And isn't it just a whopping coincidence that the death certificate, which was also marked "verified," puts the back wound at T3? So Boswell and Burkley couldn't tell the difference between C7/T1 and T3? Really?

Dr. Ebersole thought the wound was closer to T4. Was he blind too?

Clint Hill, who was called to the morgue for the specific purpose of viewing Kennedy's wounds, said the back wound was "about six inches below the neckline to the right-hand side of the spinal column." Another blind man?

Sibert and O'Neill both put the back wound well below the top of the shoulder blade, as did the FBI's 9 December 1963 report on the autopsy. The ARRB released the diagrams that Kellerman, Sibert, and O'Neill drew of the back wound for the HSCA. I trust you know what those diagrams show, right? They put the wound well below the top of the shoulder blade, just as does the face sheet and the death certificate and Dr. Ebersole and Clint Hill. What a coincidence, hey?

I hope you can regain your civility, or I won't be responding to you again.

[John Mytton]

I take it you're unaware that the coat and shirt holes line up exactly? This has been known for decades. Both holes put the wound about 5 inches below the collar line.

Did any of your researchers from the dark ages allow for the fact that Kennedy's jacket on Elm street shows bunching that extends upwards to the top of the jacket's collar? Oops!





JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

Quality graphics once again John  . It should be pointed out that the picture showing the bunched up jacket was taken literally seconds before the shot to JFK's back. How can this argument about the clothes determining the position of the entrance wound still exist?

[John Mytton]

Quality graphics once again John  . It should be pointed out that the picture showing the bunched up jacket was taken literally seconds before the shot to JFK's back. How can this argument about the clothes determining the position of the entrance wound still exist?

How can this argument about the clothes determining the position of the entrance wound still exist?

Exactly, my only agenda is the truth.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Did any of your researchers from the dark ages allow for the fact that Kennedy's jacket on Elm street shows bunching that extends upwards to the top of the jacket's collar? Oops!

All the more reason to be skeptical that the shirt was bunched up an equal amount.  Besides, Croft was taken at Z-160.  Nobody claims that a bullet hit him that early.  Where's the "jacket bunch" in Willis?

[John Mytton]

All the more reason to be skeptical that the shirt was bunched up an equal amount.  Besides, Croft was taken at Z-160.  Nobody claims that a bullet hit him that early.  Where's the "jacket bunch" in Willis?

Not this crap again, from Croft's photo until Kennedy disappears behind the sign his right arm is continually waving and when he emerges from behind the sign the jacket is still bunched and on top of that his upper torso shows no signs of being adjusted to allow the jacket to fall.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Not this crap again, from Croft's photo until Kennedy disappears behind the sign his right arm is continually waving and when he emerges from behind the sign the jacket is still bunched and on top of that his upper torso shows no signs of being adjusted to allow the jacket to fall.

Nice try.  You can't see the alleged "bunch" at all in Zapruder.  "No signs of being adjusted" is a copout.

How about Willis?