JFK's Head Snap and the Implausible Jet-Effect and Neurospasm Theories

[Michael Carney]

Bill, physics is physics, can't argue that.

[Bill Chapman]

Bill, physics is physics, can't argue that.

A sense of humour is a sense of humour.
Not everybody has one.

[Michael Carney]

Yes a sense of humor is wonderful and that was one of my favorite skits from the Seinfeld show.
Let me know what you think about my theory, it's kinda all quiet on the western front.

[Michael Carney]

I didn’t see the “illus 26 above” in your posting, but I have seen the .223 round go through the gelatin block and similar things happen. I don’t know what sets off the explosive action but I do know it travels for some distance and then explodes.
It’s not so much that it is a “carcano” round, it’s that it is a metal jacked bullet designed to go through more than one soldier on the battle field. One time my brother and I were out shooting and we had an old army masser WWII vintage, not sure where it was from but it had metal jacked bullets in it. I fired at some sort of animal feed bin and the bullet went through the first 2X6 wood piece and when it went through the second wood rail, it went through it sideways, they were about 5 feet apart. So in the first piece of wood there was just a round hole in it and in the second one you could see the side profile of the bullet. No evidence of it coming apart.
I will look in McLarens book and see if there is a moment where McLaren or Donohue realize that they don’t have an acceptable representative experiment, no hard shell.
I haven’t seen anything about the 6.5 going through a skull but McLaren did do the watermelon test with both types of bullets. The frangible round, .223 acted exactly as in Dr Alvarez’s experiment, small entry hole and an explosion in the exit area.  The 6.5 had a small entry hole and the exit hole was a little larger with some outward cracks around it. It was in “JFK – The Smoking Gun” documentary. Again a watermelon is not a human skull but it does give us a very good idea of what is happening.

[Bill Chapman]

I didn’t see the “illus 26 above” in your posting, but I have seen the .223 round go through the gelatin block and similar things happen. I don’t know what sets off the explosive action but I do know it travels for some distance and then explodes.
It’s not so much that it is a “carcano” round, it’s that it is a metal jacked bullet designed to go through more than one soldier on the battle field. One time my brother and I were out shooting and we had an old army masser WWII vintage, not sure where it was from but it had metal jacked bullets in it. I fired at some sort of animal feed bin and the bullet went through the first 2X6 wood piece and when it went through the second wood rail, it went through it sideways, they were about 5 feet apart. So in the first piece of wood there was just a round hole in it and in the second one you could see the side profile of the bullet. No evidence of it coming apart.
I will look in McLarens book and see if there is a moment where McLaren or Donohue realize that they don’t have an acceptable representative experiment, no hard shell.
I haven’t seen anything about the 6.5 going through a skull but McLaren did do the watermelon test with both types of bullets. The frangible round, .223 acted exactly as in Dr Alvarez’s experiment, small entry hole and an explosion in the exit area.  The 6.5 had a small entry hole and the exit hole was a little larger with some outward cracks around it. It was in “JFK – The Smoking Gun” documentary. Again a watermelon is not a human skull but it does give us a very good idea of what is happening.

FMJ ammo was designed to pass through-and-through a body, not necessarily to score a twofer but for humanitarian reasons.

[Michael Carney]

 Bill that’s what I was told but regardless, if the bullet were to go through two soldiers it would take 4 more soldiers off the field to get them back to the medics.
Jerry, I will look for the “illus 26”.
Yes they can be considered “soft tissue” tests but because of the similarity of a watermelon to a human head you see similar results. The bullet travels about half way through the object and explodes. The bullet has it’s own momentum and was moving at 3,000 ft/sec so it keeps traveling until it explodes.
I haven’t studied the Connelly wounding but because he was hit by a “tumbling” bullet it had to have hit something previously to upset it. Because of this the single bullet theory makes sense. Several people have lined the bullets path by showing Connelly sitting in a lower jump seat and seated a little to the left of JFK.
Once you figure in a shot from the grassy knoll, whether the “single bullet theory” is correct or not, you have established two shooters. The big question is who paid them or told them to do it.

[Bill Chapman]

Bill that’s what I was told but regardless, if the bullet were to go through two soldiers it would take 4 more soldiers off the field to get them back to the medics.

I know that. But the original decree was the humanitarian thing. However, you'd think the idea of possible twofers factored into the decision.
Mind you, Quigley scored a triple-header.

But don't use FMJ ammo for home D. You might not stop some big hulk lunging at you, and wind up winging the mother-in-law to boot.