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[Tim Nickerson]

Just wanted to make sure, as predicted, you couldn't deal with the Waldman 4 fantasy numbers.

Like Mytton and Von P.

The Nutters always chicken out on Waldman 4, love it.

Chicken out on Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

[Tim Nickerson]

No, your bluff will not work.

The WC provided no evidence of any of those control and serial numbers to have been entered into the master book as required by law.

Which part of the testimony do you not understand?

Mr. BELIN. Do you have any master control ledger or book of any kind that has these control numbers on them?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes. One copy is sent to what we call the booking department, and those are put into a master book, control book.
Mr. BELIN. Are you required by law to keep records of serial numbers of guns?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes.

What difference does it make if they were put into a master book or not? Waldman Exhibit #4 itself is a record that Klein's kept of the serial numbers of the rifles.

[Tim Nickerson]

Because that was the alleged purpose of producing the the original to Waldman 4. 

So how would you verify its authenticity without consulting the master book?

What?  The alleged purpose of producing the original to Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

How would consulting the masterbook verify its authenticity? The master book would just be a duplication of the record of Waldman #4.

[Michael T. Griffith]

What?  The alleged purpose of producing the original to Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

How would consulting the masterbook verify its authenticity? The master book would just be a duplication of the record of Waldman #4.

Gosh, really?  The fact that it was never entered into the master book/control book suggests that it was not a real item, that it was fabricated and was not an item that went through the normal processing and documentation procedures.

That is why you cannot find any evidence that the money order was ever cashed. That is why there is no evidence that it was processed by the bank or by the Federal Reserve System.

That is why the money order was bought by someone else, while Oswald was at work at Jaggars-Stovall.

Etc., etc., etc.

And, by the way, regarding your claim about the timing of and reasons for the SBT's creation, you might want to read historian Dr. Gerald McKnight's chapter on this in his book Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (University Press of Kansas, 2005). It is chapter 8.

[Tim Nickerson]

Gosh, really?  The fact that it was never entered into the master book/control book suggests that it was not a real item, that it was fabricated and was not an item that went through the normal processing and documentation procedures.

How do you know that it was never entered into the master book? Scibor said it was. Waldman #4 alone establishes that it was a real item. Waldman #7 would also suffice as a standalone in establishing that it was a real item.

That is why you cannot find any evidence that the money order was ever cashed. That is why there is no evidence that it was processed by the bank or by the Federal Reserve System.

The File Locator Number proves that the money order was cashed and processed by the Federal Reserve system.

That is why the money order was bought by someone else, while Oswald was at work at Jaggars-Stovall.

The money order was bought by Oswald. He snuck away from work and then lied on his timesheet.

And, by the way, regarding your claim about the timing of and reasons for the SBT's creation, you might want to read historian Dr. Gerald McKnight's chapter on this in his book Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (University Press of Kansas, 2005). It is chapter 8.[/size]

Not interested. The SBT was realized no later than April of 1964.

[Tim Nickerson]

Get up to speed:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10408&search=rupp#relPageId=197&tab=page

That doesn't help at all.

Wow, I forgot how bad you are at this.

Because the master book is the official record required by law, it would not "just" be a duplication. It would also log the chronology of weapons received to verify that C 2766 was an actual February shipment. There is zero evidence to support W4 was created as the result of a February shipment.

Where do you get that they were required by law to keep the control and serial numbers in a master book? What specific Federal or State of Illinois law required those records to be kept in a master book?

[John Mytton]

That is why you cannot find any evidence that the money order was ever cashed. That is why there is no evidence that it was processed by the bank or by the Federal Reserve System.

That is why the money order was bought by someone else, while Oswald was at work at Jaggars-Stovall.

So you reckon the money order was bought by someone else therefore you have no choice but to admit that the money order was a real item and existed in our World and logically thereafter it was sent to Kleins which we know because Kleins stamped the money order with their official stamp(see below), yet for some unknown reason when it arrived at Kleins it wasn't cashed? Wtf?

As I already told you, the only foolproof method to pull off this "deception" was just to simply make the entire order in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald(only Oswald would use an alias of A. Hidell) and let it go through the normal channels and intercept the package after it arrived at the Post Office, but this elaborate plan with a cast of thousands that you have cooked up fails on almost every level and in court someone like Bugliosi would make you look very foolish.

Mr. BELIN. I hand you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 788, which appears to be a U.S. postal money order payable to the order of Klein's Sporting Goods, and marked that it's from a purchaser named A. Hidell, and as the purchaser's street address is Post Office Box No. 2915, and the purchaser's City, Dallas, Tex.; March 12, 1963: and underneath the amount of $21.45, the number 2,202,130,462. And on the reverse side there appears to be an endorsement of a bank.
I wonder if you would read that endorsement, if you would, and examine it, please.
Mr. WALDMAN. This is a stamped endorsement reading "Pay to the order of the First National Bank of Chicago," followed by our account No. 50 space 91144, and that, in turn, followed by "Klein's Sporting Goods, Inc."
Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not that is your company's endorsement on that money order?
Mr. WALDMAN. It's identical to our endorsement.
Mr. BELIN. And I hand you what has been marked as Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 9 and ask you if you can state what this is.
Mr. WALDMAN. This is our endorsement stamp which reads the same as that shown on the money order in question.
Mr. BELIN. You have just now stamped Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 9 with your endorsement stamp?
Mr. WALDMAN. Correct.





The money order has a solid chain of custody.



JohnM