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Online John Mytton

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A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
« on: January 06, 2018, 11:38:27 PM »

A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.




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A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
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Offline Susan Wilde

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2018, 10:26:26 PM »


You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (Real autopsy photo on left; Myers drawing on right)

As can be clearly seen at the link given above,  when anatomically scaled the same, the  real  JFK back entrance wound location  documented in the  real  autopsy photo was then  drawn  by Myers very incorrectly,  very deliberately,  misleadingly  wrong, and  not  matched by the  C.A.D.-drawing that  Myers  created.

IOW,  Myers  flat-out  lied

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 02:40:42 AM »
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (Real autopsy photo on left; Myers drawing on right)

As can be clearly seen at the link given above,  when anatomically scaled the same, the  real  JFK back entrance wound location  documented in the  real  autopsy photo was then  drawn  by Myers very incorrectly,  very deliberately,  misleadingly  wrong, and  not  matched by the  C.A.D.-drawing that  Myers  created.

IOW,  Myers  flat-out  lied


Myers never lied about anything. In the autopsy photo, Kennedy's  shoulders are vastly elevated over the normal position and fixed there due to rigor mortis. Myers' graphic has the shoulders in the normal position. Marsh did not take that into consideration.

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 02:11:53 AM »
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In the autopsy photo, Kennedy's  shoulders are vastly elevated over the normal position

That is a  demonstrably incorrect statement.

For the  real, authentic  autopsy photo,  the majority of persons already know that President Kennedy's body was still laying on the autopsy table,  then, the autopsy doctors simply rolled it onto its left side,  then the photo was captured. (IOW, they did not sit-up his upper torso, and therefore both shoulders were  not 
"vastly elevated over the normal position" as Tim o-pined and tried to spin.

I was first surprised for a split-second  (but not surprised upon further reflection's)  that Tim  - obviously, a  "loone nut"-swallower -  has never been aware of the documented, real orientation of the body for that specific photo.

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2018, 05:25:10 AM »
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That is a  demonstrably incorrect statement.

For the  real, authentic  autopsy photo,  the majority of persons already know that President Kennedy's body was still laying on the autopsy table,  then, the autopsy doctors simply rolled it onto its left side,  then the photo was captured. (IOW, they did not sit-up his upper torso, and therefore both shoulders were  not 
"vastly elevated over the normal position" as Tim o-pined and tried to spin.

I was first surprised for a split-second  (but not surprised upon further reflection's)  that Tim  - obviously, a  "loone nut"-swallower -  has never been aware of the documented, real orientation of the body for that specific photo.


Susan, was the body in a state of rigor mortis when the autopsy photos were taken? Yes or no.

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 11:00:05 PM »
And by "scientific" Mytton means that Myers started with the assumption that there was a single bullet fired from the SE 6th floor window of the TSBD and then created a model by assuming where the wounds were located and moving the models around until the assumed wounds sort of line up.

In other words, not scientific at all.

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Re: A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2018, 09:33:52 PM »
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And by "scientific" Mytton means that Myers started with the assumption that there was a single bullet fired from the SE 6th floor window of the TSBD and then created a model by assuming where the wounds were located and moving the models around until the assumed wounds sort of line up.

In other words, not scientific at all.

So get someone to do something better—more accurate in your opinion—if you believe that.
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Re: A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2018, 02:47:23 PM »
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Good one.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2018, 07:33:31 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: A scientific look at the Single Bullet Theory.
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 07:52:58 AM »
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How "scientific" is the statement "Zapruder film shows simultaneous reactions"?  This statement is based on an assumption that is not obvious to an unbiased observer: i.e that JFK's hand positions in z223 are not the result of a reaction to being shot through the neck prior to that point.  It is also not at all obvious that there is a clear path from JFK's neck exit wound to JBC's right armpit that misses JFK's hands, but that is a minor point.

Unbiased scientists share their data. They do not avoid showing us the data used in order to protect a copyright. Myers refuses to disclose the angles and distances (eg. what is the horizontal angle used; how far inboard JBC is and where this comes from).

How scientific is it to ignore 60+ witnesses who said the first shot struck JFK and/or that there was only one shot before the midpoint between the first and third (i.e. one shot before at least z240)?

I would submit that someone who adheres to basic principles of science would approach the problem this way:

1. what are the range of possibilities as to what the bullet through JFK hit, based on all the evidence?

2. which of those possibilities is the best fit with all the evidence.
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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2018, 12:55:28 PM »
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Myers' graphic has the shoulders in the normal position.


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« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 04:12:24 PM by Michael Capasse »

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Re: the Single Bullet Theory: Real Autopsy Photo, vs. Myers' drawing.
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