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Online Martin Weidmann

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Is there any possibility that she could have seen Lovelady and Shelley still on the first floor when she re-entered the front door at 12:36?

No, because, according to her testimony, she never returned to the first floor.

She entered the building, and took the stairs in the south east corner. They only went to the 2nd floor, so she walked through the office space to the freight elevators in the back. When she got there she saw two men whom she believed to be law enforcement officers. They all went on the elevator, but it wouldn't work. So, Adams came off the elevator and took the stairs in the north west corner to the 4th floor.

In theory it could be that, instant of going up straight away, she first went down the stairs to the 1st floor, maybe to get to the other elevator, and then went back up the stairs again to the 4th floor, but if she did, there is no mention of it anywhere. It could however, at least in theory, explain the sighting of Shelley and Lovelady

Offline John Iacoletti

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No, because, according to her testimony, she never returned to the first floor.

She entered the building, and took the stairs in the south east corner.

Well, she would have briefly been on the first floor in order to take the stairs up to the second floor.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Well, she would have briefly been on the first floor in order to take the stairs up to the second floor.

Well, if you put it that way, yes she was on the first floor for perhaps a couple of seconds before she took the stairs to the 2nd floor.

But let me be more precise; there is nothing in her testimony that suggests she ever went beyond the boundry of the hallway behind the main entrance or returned to the shipping area on the first floor.

I seriously doubt that she could have seen Shelley and Lovelady from the hallway, if that's where you were going with this. The stairs to the 2nd floor are against the east wall of the building, which means that she would have to make a right turn as soon as she walked into the hallway. There would be no need for her to walk all the way to the counter that separated the hallway from the shipping warehouse.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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What I'm getting at is could see have seen them in the shipping area when coming in through the main entrance?

Online Martin Weidmann

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What I'm getting at is could see have seen them in the shipping area when coming in through the main entrance?

Yes, that idea crossed my mind after I had written my previous post. I have now changed it and it contains the answer to your question

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The second set of doors is a short counter.  Not sure about the first set of doors.

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I think the set of doors near where the number 10 is are in fact complete doors, separating the shipping area from the main entrance.

There is one thing that has been bothering me. Shelley and Lovelady are supposed to have re-entered the building on the west side, but all the doors on the western side of the building actually go to the basement. For them to get to the 1st floor they would have to climb the stairs in the north west corner or those seen in the floorplan west of the main entrance.

So, maybe there is something after all to the possibility saw both men, coming up those stairs, as she re-entered the building through the main entrance. There is, however, no evidence for it.
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