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If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?
Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 06, 2020, 12:18:15 AM ---Yawn, welcome to the party, you do realize that all this has been thoroughly examined, dissected and analysed ad nausea years ago in one of Colin Crow's multipart Chicken Bone threads.
Let me slow this down for you, on one hand we have the fresh memories of Williams himself telling us that he brought his lunch from home and agreeing that carrying his lunch was his usual habit
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:D
So, Mr Mytton, you now all of a sudden are partial to "the fresh memories of Mr Williams himself"? Super! Let's start with what he says in his 11/22/63 affidavit------------
"We rode the elevator to the 1st floor and got our lunches. I went back on the 5th floor with a fellow called Hank and Junior (...)"
This is what Mr Williams' freshest of fresh memories is telling us, so it must be what happened. Right?
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Colin Crow:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 06, 2020, 12:57:13 AM ---I don't know if you agree that Williams had his lunch on the 6th floor. If you do how long do you think he was up there before going down to the 5th because the way I read it he didn't go down until the last minute.
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Some of JohnM's previous thoughts.......
"I reckon that Williams did in fact see Oswald in the sniper's nest because why would he go up to the 6th floor to sit with his mates and just plonk himself down in the middle of the floor without checking all the windows?
When Williams went down to the 5th floor he obviously went to the windows directly below the sniper's nest, so what stopped him doing the same on the floor above?
When confronted with the following wall of boxes, would Williams simply shout out to his friends and after not hearing an answer just move on or would he have a peek to see if his friends were there and perhaps just horsing around?
And from the following exchange from Williams testimony, after Ford heard Williams explain what happened on the 6th floor Ford immediately attempt to associate Williams with breaking the law, which could indicate that they thought that Williams was lying?
Mr. DULLES. How much of the room could you see as you finished your lunch there? Was your view obstructed by boxes of books, or could you see a good bit of the sixth floor?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, at the time I couldn't see too much of the sixth floor, because the books at the time were stacked so high. I could see only in the path that I was standing--as I remember, I could not possibly see anything to the east side of the building. But just one aisle, the aisle I was standing in I could see just about to the west side of the building. So far as seeing to the east and behind me, I could only see down the aisle behind me and the aisle to the west of me.
Representative FORD.Have you ever had any trouble with the law at all?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir.
Representative FORD.No difficulty as far as the law is concerned?
JohnM
From <https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1266.60.html>
C'mon Colin we have debated this before, correct me if I'm wrong but where this is going is that you believe that Williams actually saw the killer and that's why they all lied, and as I remember I agreed with you and said that Williams must have seen Oswald and then you disagreed that it was Oswald, am I right?
JohnM
From <https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1266.80.html>
So at the end of the day, John essentially agreed with my analysis. We both believed that Williams saw the assassin before leaving. We differed in that John felt it was Oswald. I am not convinced.
Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: Colin Crow on August 06, 2020, 10:57:54 AM ---Some of JohnM's previous thoughts.......
"I reckon that Williams did in fact see Oswald in the sniper's nest because why would he go up to the 6th floor to sit with his mates and just plonk himself down in the middle of the floor without checking all the windows? (...")
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Mr Mytton believes Mr Williams saw Mr Oswald in the sniper's nest? This just gets funnier and funnier! No wonder Mr Williams was so terrified and kept on changing his story for months afterwards----------the poor man obviously feared a reprisal-haunting by the Lone Nut gunman's ghost!
I look forward to seeing a new Soopah-Doopah-Mytton-GIF proving that Mr Oswald, when seen in the right perspective, was an ageing black man! :D
Colin Crow:
--- Quote from: Alan Ford on August 06, 2020, 11:06:38 AM ---Mr Mytton believes Mr Williams saw Mr Oswald in the sniper's nest? This just gets funnier and funnier! No wonder Mr Williams was so terrified and kept on changing his story for months afterwards----------the poor man obviously feared a reprisal-haunting by the Lone Nut gunman's ghost!
I look forward to seeing a new Soopah-Doopah-Mytton-GIF proving that Mr Oswald, when seen in the right perspective, was an ageing black man! :D
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I wonder why Williams did not just tell the cops this the afternoon he was making his statement when he saw Oswald brought into custody. Would have saved us much anguish. Oswald, the guy who was gunned down in police protection less than two days later....that guy.
Gerry Down:
--- Quote from: Colin Crow on August 06, 2020, 03:49:15 AM ---Do you have an opinion why the bag and bottle, "the assassin's lunch' were not included that evening.
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Prob not deemed relevant. Just like the clipboard. Its not as if they could take the entire contents of the 6th floor away in a truck as evidence.
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