If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

[Alan Ford]

Yawn, welcome to the party, you do realize that all this has been thoroughly examined, dissected and analysed ad nausea years ago in one of Colin Crow's multipart Chicken Bone threads.
Let me slow this down for you, on one hand we have the fresh memories of Williams himself telling us that he brought his lunch from home and agreeing that carrying his lunch was his usual habit

 

So, Mr Mytton, you now all of a sudden are partial to "the fresh memories of Mr Williams himself"? Super! Let's start with what he says in his 11/22/63 affidavit------------

"We rode the elevator to the 1st floor and got our lunches. I went back on the 5th floor with a fellow called Hank and Junior (...)"

This is what Mr Williams' freshest of fresh memories is telling us, so it must be what happened. Right?

 

[Colin Crow]

I don't know if you agree that Williams had his lunch on the 6th floor. If you do how long do you think he was up there before going down to the 5th because the way I read it he didn't go down until the last minute.

Some of JohnM's previous thoughts.......

"I reckon that Williams did in fact see Oswald in the sniper's nest because why would he go up to the 6th floor to sit with his mates and just plonk himself down in the middle of the floor without checking all the windows?

When Williams went down to the 5th floor he obviously went to the windows directly below the sniper's nest, so what stopped him doing the same on the floor above?

When confronted with the following wall of boxes, would Williams simply shout out to his friends and after not hearing an answer just move on or would he have a peek to see if his friends were there and perhaps just horsing around?

And from the following exchange from Williams testimony, after Ford heard Williams explain what happened on the 6th floor Ford immediately attempt to associate Williams with breaking the law, which could indicate that they thought that Williams was lying?

Mr. DULLES. How much of the room could you see as you finished your lunch there? Was your view obstructed by boxes of books, or could you see a good bit of the sixth floor?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, at the time I couldn't see too much of the sixth floor, because the books at the time were stacked so high. I could see only in the path that I was standing--as I remember, I could not possibly see anything to the east side of the building. But just one aisle, the aisle I was standing in I could see just about to the west side of the building. So far as seeing to the east and behind me, I could only see down the aisle behind me and the aisle to the west of me.
Representative FORD.Have you ever had any trouble with the law at all?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir.
Representative FORD.No difficulty as far as the law is concerned?

JohnM

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C'mon Colin we have debated this before, correct me if I'm wrong but where this is going is that you believe that Williams actually saw the killer and that's why they all lied, and as I remember I agreed with you and said that Williams must have seen Oswald and then you disagreed that it was Oswald, am I right?

JohnM

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So at the end of the day, John essentially agreed with my analysis. We both believed that Williams saw the assassin before leaving. We differed in that John felt it was Oswald. I am not convinced.

[Alan Ford]

Some of JohnM's previous thoughts.......

"I reckon that Williams did in fact see Oswald in the sniper's nest because why would he go up to the 6th floor to sit with his mates and just plonk himself down in the middle of the floor without checking all the windows? (...")

Mr Mytton believes Mr Williams saw Mr Oswald in the sniper's nest? This just gets funnier and funnier! No wonder Mr Williams was so terrified and kept on changing his story for months afterwards----------the poor man obviously feared a reprisal-haunting by the Lone Nut gunman's ghost!

I look forward to seeing a new Soopah-Doopah-Mytton-GIF proving that Mr Oswald, when seen in the right perspective, was an ageing black man! 

[Colin Crow]

Mr Mytton believes Mr Williams saw Mr Oswald in the sniper's nest? This just gets funnier and funnier! No wonder Mr Williams was so terrified and kept on changing his story for months afterwards----------the poor man obviously feared a reprisal-haunting by the Lone Nut gunman's ghost!

I look forward to seeing a new Soopah-Doopah-Mytton-GIF proving that Mr Oswald, when seen in the right perspective, was an ageing black man! 

I wonder why Williams did not just tell the cops this the afternoon he was making his statement when he saw Oswald brought into custody. Would have saved us much anguish. Oswald, the guy who was gunned down in police protection less than two days later....that guy.

[Gerry Down]

Do you have an opinion why the bag and bottle, "the assassin's lunch' were not included that evening.

Prob not deemed relevant. Just like the clipboard. Its not as if they could take the entire contents of the 6th floor away in a truck as evidence.

[Michael T. Griffith]

First of all, if Oswald had been the lone assassin and had possessed half the rifle skills that the WC attributed to him, he would have fired at JFK when the limousine was coming toward the TSBD on Houston Street. He would have had no tree obstructing his view (whereas it obstructed his view of Elm Street for nearly 2 seconds), and the limo would have been moving in a straight line toward him, instead of curving away from him on Elm Street. This would have been a much easier shooting feat.

When the WC asked J. Edgar Hoover about this when he testified, Hoover said the oak tree would have obstructed the lone gunman's view from the sixth-floor window! No, I am not kidding. And nobody at the hearing dared to point out to him that this was erroneous, that the view from the sixth-floor window would have been unobstructed.

[Colin Crow]

Prob not deemed relevant. Just like the clipboard. Its not as if they could take the entire contents of the 6th floor away in a truck as evidence.

The clipboard was not found until after Oswald's death. How was it not deemed relevant on the evening of the assassination? It was processed by Studebaker in situ and entered into evidence with the long sack about 3.20pm.