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If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?
Colin Crow:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 05, 2020, 01:19:03 PM ---What's your take on what's going on here. Why are items returned to Dallas on the 24th then sent back? Why, given there are two opportunities, aren't the sack, bottle, cigarettes etc sent to the FBI. Surely the FBI has rank on this stuff. Are the FBI even aware of these items?
My best guess is that these items somehow interfered with the narrative of the lone assassin but who is driving this narrative and how many people are involved with implementing it?
Are the FBI and the DPD in cahoots or is the DPD holding out on them? Who makes the decision not to hand over the sack, bottle etc.?
"The more I know the less I understand"
Paul Weller "Changing Man"
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Dan I seem to recall that the original transfer of evidence on the night of the assassination was not widely known at the time. Maybe Hoover pulled rank and demanded the stuff. It was returned as you saw and then removed again. Interesting that the paper samples were not returned at all as the FBI referred to them as "non evidence"!
I cannot explain why the lunch stuff did not go with the rest of the evidence that night. It’s not as if the media were not widely reporting that afternoon (and continued to do so for days) that the assassin waited in the SN eating chicken and drinking soda. Surely Hoover had heard this too. Of course by Monday, when Day claimed to discover that the lunch belonged to another employee Oswald was dead.
I do not believe the bottle or bag were analysed for Oswald's prints before the evidence was provided to Drain? I seem to remember Oswald's prints were not obtained immediately upon his arrival and were taken on a couple of occasions maybe between interrogations and lineups. I seem to recall about 8pm as one of them, or that could be the paraffin testing.
Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 05, 2020, 10:19:21 AM ---
Mr. BALL. Did you carry your lunch that day?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; I did.
Mr. BALL. Do you usually carry your lunch to work?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; I do.
Mr. BALL. That was your habit, carrying your lunch?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And that day, on November 22d, how did you carry your lunch from home to work?
Mr. WILLIAMS. I carried my lunch from home to work in a brown paper bag. I believe it was size No. 6 or maybe 8--paper bag.
Your research skills continue to be an absolute joke, even tiddlywinks would be too complicated, maybe sitting in the corner contemplating your navel wouldn't be too much effort. ;)
JohnM
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:D
Your problem, Mr Mytton, is that I know the totality of the evidence better than you do!
Case in point! Mr Harold Norman told the HSCA that Mr Williams definitely got his lunch from the catering truck that day. This of course explains why he split off from Messrs Norman and Jarman after coming downstairs.
Mr Williams couldn't keep his story straight. That's why he's adding unnecessary detail in the portion of testimony you quote.
Keep trying, Mr Mytton. Maybe someday you might even get there! Thumb1:
Alan Ford:
This interesting little moment in Mr Norman's WC testimony supports what I am suggesting about Messrs Norman & Jarman's joining Mr Williams on five rather than the other way around:
Mr. BALL. And what did you and Junior do after you got off the elevator?
Mr. NORMAN. We walked around to the windows facing Elm Street and I can't recall if any were open or not but I remember we opened some, two or three windows ourselves.
Mr. BALL. Did somebody join you there?
Mr. NORMAN. Bonnie Ray, I can't remember if he was there when we got there or he came later. I know he was with us a period of time later.
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Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on August 05, 2020, 12:55:15 PM ---Awww, little loser diddums is having another meltdown. Hilarious!
JohnM
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And there is the overinflated ego again.... right on cue Thumb1:
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on August 05, 2020, 06:30:26 PM ---And there is the overinflated ego again.... right on cue Thumb1:
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And the meltdown continues. LOL!
JohnM
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