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If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?
Jim Brunsman:
My ego is damaged? Hardly. Geez, the false claims coming from May are too numerous to contemplate. I can't believe you continue to trot out the moronic SBT. Remember the autopsy? The one that actually occurred? How many witnesses tell us the back wound didn't exit? Even if it did, CE 399, which is housed in the holy archives, has an extremely dubious chain of possession and appears to have been fired through nothing. Otherwise there would be substantial damage since it allegedly tore through two men causing multiple wounds. Again, this truly has to be the most magical of all bullets in the history of ballistics. You have to be a special kind of gullible to buy this bullshit.
Paul May:
--- Quote from: Michael Walton on June 09, 2020, 04:58:57 PM ---Paul May - care to reply to my recent post on this? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
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Michael, I’m not a big fan of re-enactments for obvious reasons. They’re unnecessary. We have the ZAP film tell us what we need to know. If nothing else the tie nick tells us a bullet exited JFK’s neck.
Paul May:
--- Quote from: Jim Brunsman on June 09, 2020, 05:59:58 PM ---My ego is damaged? Hardly. Geez, the false claims coming from May are too numerous to contemplate. I can't believe you continue to trot out the moronic SBT. Remember the autopsy? The one that actually occurred? How many witnesses tell us the back wound didn't exit? Even if it did, CE 399, which is housed in the holy archives, has an extremely dubious chain of possession and appears to have been fired through nothing. Otherwise there would be substantial damage since it allegedly tore through two men causing multiple wounds. Again, this truly has to be the most magical of all bullets in the history of ballistics. You have to be a special kind of gullible to buy this bullshit.
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This is a hoot. Do you believe using words such as “moronic” helps your cause? You sound like an idiot. In your latest diatribe you now show how little understanding you have of FMJ ammunition. CE-399 behaved exactly as it was designed to behave. You people often use the word “pristine” in describing the bullet. In ballistics, the ONLY bullet ever considered “pristine” is one that has never been fired. Have YOU ever fired a MC rifle? It’s a yes or no question. You then state “otherwise there would be substantial damage since it allegedly tore (your word) through two men causing multiple wounds”. Are you familiar at all with the term “yaw angle”? Take your time and google it. Guess what neophyte? CE-399 DID sustain substantial damage. The bullet was bowed some 35 percent in the middle and was tooth-pasting lead from the bottom. Hardly pristine....except to an individual needing to make that claim due to him/her reading it in a book, which seems to be the only research you do. From your demonstrated ability in avoiding any questions
you’re asked, one can can safely assume you don’t know the meaning of the word research so, you’d come into this site espousing 50+ years of crap. Want to impress the readers? Tell us something NEW in the way of actual evidence, without the usual bias. But, before that, actually learn the rudimentary FACTS of the case. You haven’t a clue.
Jim Brunsman:
Here's May still trying to gaslight history. Not going to work on my watch, pal. I cite the back wound not exiting as proof of the impossibility of the SBT and he trots out a bunch of irrelevant ballistic evidence that makes zero sense. Your arguments are the most archaic, disproven, unscientific nonsense imaginable. Yaw angle is somehow supposed to supersede the obvious implications of a non-transit through the president's body? You also said at one point that there really are exit wounds on the front of the body. Strange, but I have seen no evidence to support this dubious claim. The doctors at Parkland certainly didn't report any such thing. How do you explain all the medical witnesses who report a huge hole in the back of the head? I'm sure you will dodge that too. Again, so pointless to be here....
Thomas Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 09, 2020, 09:34:52 AM ---Put yourself in LHO's shoes. He knows as soon as he takes the shot everyone working in the TSBD that day becomes an instant suspect. If he wanted to escape he would never have taken the shot from his place of work. That he makes it down to the second floor and is found seconds after the shooting sipping a coke is almost as good as an alibi but instead of hanging around with colleagues and answering any questions he leaves the scene, making himself a prime suspect. He also knows, prior to the shooting, that he will have to leave his weapon at the scene. He works at the TSBD but doesn't prepare a place to quickly stash the rifle and shells. Instead, knowing he is going to be questioned by police, he carries a false ID in his wallet connecting him to the rifle he knows is going to be found.
Escape plan? His plan should have been to get out of the building and get to Mexico, not go home, get a gun, kill a police officer then go to the cinema.
The guy was obviously a moron.
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LOL
Marion Baker said in so many words that the only reason he ran into the TSBD was because he'd seen a flock of pigeons depart from its roof when a gun shot (the first one, evidently) rang out.
(One can only wonder if any pigeons left the roof of the DalTex Building or "Old Red", etc.)
Point being: Until Howard Brennan and Amos Euins, et al., told the police what they'd witnessed, not many people suspected that the shots had come from Oswald's place of work.
-- MWT ;)
PS I see your point, though. The dummy should have hung around and shot the shit with Buell for 15 minutes or so before saying, "Fuck it, I'm going home to change my clothes and get my revolver before going to The Texas Theater."
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