If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

[Jerry Freeman]

The bullet exhibits a somewhat flattened side and butt-end. One can see in my avatar the notable difference between the perfectly round black circle in which it sits, and the (damaged) oval shape of the bullet's butt-end. This establishes that Ce399 did not emerge 'pristine' as CTers would have one believe.

There is something butt end about your posts besides the bullet. Most researchers claim that CE 399 appears to be NEARLY pristine...meaning it had been fired yeah...maybe into a mattress or massive pool of water but certainly not entirely through two human bodies shattering bones and tearing fibers. Why not grow a brain? Why not change your avatar to the butt end of your butt?

[Colin Crow]

I'm talking about the guy @2:30

I asked you if you had tried timing a few steps on stairs yourself
I find that at a casual rate of speed I get 2 steps per second

So, 18 steps per floor x 4 floors is 72 steps = 36 seconds at your casual rate. How much to add for landings at floors 5, 4, 3 and 2? Maybe 3 seconds each? That’s another 12 seconds. Roughly 48 seconds from the time of entry to the stairwell to the door on the second floor.

That just leaves walking 180 feet or so from the SN, hiding the gun and entering the stairwell.

My question relates to 7'6" mark in the video you posted. He enters the stairwell at around 28 seconds. Then he is shown getting to the 4th floor 6 seconds later. Just one of the interesting editing moments from that "documentary".

[Jerry Freeman]

When the discussion starts going in circle and covering the same items over and over again it is time for me to just ignore it. The sad part is that you believe your own untruths and refuse to listen to reason. One cannot reason with an unreasonable person, period.

Unreasonably unreasonable huh? That's been your game ever since you joined the forum. Ignore that one...betcha can't.

[Jerry Freeman]

Until Oswald got off the 6th floor he may have carried his loaded rifle across the 6th floor just in case he encountered another employee because Oswald later showed that he was willing to kill anyone who got in his way like Tippit and again with the cops in the Texas Theater.

"His loaded rifle" huh? One bullet left in the clip? Throw us another bone.
If Oswald was such a homicidal maniac and he was ready to kill...why have a rifle with no more clips left? Why didn't he bring a pistol if he had one.
The sniper's nest movie sucked big green ones. Hid the rifle like laying it down behind a sofa. No stacks of boxes to negotiate around...and even John Mytton confirms [reply 579] Brennan's statement that the shooter was in no particular hurry.

[Dan O'meara]

Adams is absolutely insistent and consistent on one point in every statement she ever made concerning her actions that day - she started heading for the stairs within seconds of the final shot and she was running. This is corroborated by subsequent statements made by both Styles and Garner. She is also consistent in saying she saw no-one on the stairs.
We know from the Couch and Darnell films Shelley and Lovelady were out front of the TSBD when Baker reached the foot of the steps outside the front entrance.
If we accept this evidence we must come to the conclusion that Adams could not possibly have seen Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor. It's impossible.
So we are left with two main possibilities - Adams lied about seeing Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor or this part of her WC testimony was added without her knowledge.
Lets look at motives. Why would Adams lie about this detail? I have no idea why she might do this but would be glad to hear some wild speculation about it. Why would the WC lie about this detail? I think that's obvious - to make it appear that Adams and Styles could not have been on the stairs at the same time as Oswald.
When Garner reached her office door Adams and Styles were already clattering down the 'very noisy' wooden stairs, she heard them clearly. She then moved closer to the area of the stairs where she would have and unobstructed view of anyone opening the door of the stairs coming down from the fifth floor and crossing the floor to go down the stairs to the third. More importantly, she would have heard anyone coming down. She was there moments later when Baker came up those same stairs. Oswald never came down those stairs. Adams never saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor. Of these things we can be certain.

[Gerry Down]

Adams said she ran down the stairs, ran out the back door, ran around the west side of the TSBD and when she arrived at the front door she listened to a motorcycle radio. The item she heard on the radio (a report about shots coming from the 4th floor) was not played on the radio until 12:37pm.

It does not take 7 minutes to run down the stairs, run out the back door, run around the west side of the TSBD and then go to the front door. More like 3 minutes. So there is a missing 4 minutes in her timeline. The 4 minutes she spent on the fourth floor before running down the back stairs.

Case closed.

[Martin Weidmann]

Adams said she ran down the stairs, ran out the back door, ran around the west side of the TSBD and when she arrived at the front door she listened to a motorcycle radio. The item she heard on the radio (a report about shots coming from the 4th floor) was not played on the radio until 12:37pm.

It does not take 7 minutes to run down the stairs, run out the back door, run around the west side of the TSBD and then go to the front door. More like 3 minutes. So there is a missing 4 minutes in her timeline. The 4 minutes she spent on the fourth floor before running down the back stairs.

Case closed.

Adams said she ran down the stairs, ran out the back door, ran around the west side of the TSBD and when she arrived at the front door she listened to a motorcycle radio. The item she heard on the radio (a report about shots coming from the 4th floor) was not played on the radio until 12:37pm.

How in the world do you come up with BS like this. In all her known statements Adams is crystal clear that she and Styles came down the stairs, turned left and stepped out onto the loading dock at the back of the TSBD. Both then ran to the railroad yard where they were stopped by a police officer who told them to return to the TSBD. Adams then went back from the railroad yard along the front of the building where she saw several TSBD employees and overheard a police radio.

It does not take 7 minutes to run down the stairs, run out the back door, run around the west side of the TSBD and then go to the front door. More like 3 minutes. So there is a missing 4 minutes in her timeline. The 4 minutes she spent on the fourth floor before running down the back stairs.

Which, if true - it isn't - would mean that Adams lied to the FBI on 11/24/63, she lied to Jim Leavelle on 02/07/64 and she lied in her WC testimony. It means also that Dorothy Garner lied to Barefoot Sanders when she told him - according to the Stroud letter - that she saw Adams and Styles go down before Truly and Baker came up.

You are so full of BS. If the girls had spent 4 minutes on the 4th floor, they would have seen Oswald pass by (if he was ever there) and they would have seen Truly and Baker come up, just like Garner. None of that happened. What really happened is that they went down the stairs straightaway after the third shot and the so-called "missing 4 minutes in her timeline" is accounted for by the time she needed to get to the railway yard and her walk back to the front entrance of the building.