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If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?
Paul May:
--- Quote from: Jim Brunsman on June 08, 2020, 11:41:08 PM ---You lied in response to my post by saying I offer no specifics. That's exactly what I have offered on multiple occasions. You still owe Horne an apology. Is that specific enough? You tried to discredit him and you never, ever answer anything posed to you. Rather cowardly, isn't it?
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Yawn. You offer NOTHING. Speculation, innuendo, opinion. Nothing.
Here is what you proffer: Inability to answer ANY question. Examples of what you choose to ignore:
1. Have you been to NARA?
2. Outside of reading books (laughable), have YOU done any actual research?
3. Provide ONE piece of hard, credible, corroborated piece of evidence supporting a conspiracy. Just one.
Regarding Horne, he and I went back and forth on Amazon when he published his absurd diatribe. Guess that’s one more piece of research you ignored. Like Horn, I’m a former Naval Officer. Character counts. He’s an embarrassment to the conspiracy debate and that’s saying something. He owes an apology to anybody who purchased his sci-fi.
Paul May:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on June 09, 2020, 12:11:26 AM ---You just got done saying “Now, rely ONLY on ballistic and medical evidence. Who’s the shooter?”
There have been lots of alternatives presented. None of them any more or less convincing than your “history”.
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You and I would likely disagree on the time of day as in the past. No point to this.
Bill Chapman:
--- Quote from: Jim Brunsman on June 08, 2020, 09:10:17 PM ---Wrong as always. Since when is consistent eyewitness testimony "speculation?" Did you actually read Horne's research? If you didn't, it makes you look pretty bad. Why do you feel the need to bring Jeremy Gunn into the conversation in a rather troubling effort to discredit Horne? That kind of tactic doesn't work on me. If you have some examples of Horne's mistakes, I would like to see them. If you haven't read his research, you owe him a public apology.
Also, don't lump me in with anyone else, since I synthesize research from many sources before offering my opinions on a public forum. I've been studying the case since junior high school and I've carefully read books on both sides of the issue. As always, you challenge none of the pertinent issues, but just do an extremely lazy drive by at Oswald at the end. Challenging what I write without specifics is also worthless. Saying "history has spoken" is exactly what I am here to fight. You have produced nothing to make me believe LHO shot anyone on 11/22/63. When challenged, you produce no evidence whatsoever, only insults and obfuscation. How about some substance for once?
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You have exactly no evidence to prove that AnybodyButOswald even so much as made an attempt to shoot Kennedy that day. You've proven nothing to show someone other than Oswald shot Tippit. And if you know someone other than the shooter in the Cuckoo's Nest knew there was going to be an attempt made on Kennedy that day, feel free to call a press conference.
Dan O'meara:
Put yourself in LHO's shoes. He knows as soon as he takes the shot everyone working in the TSBD that day becomes an instant suspect. If he wanted to escape he would never have taken the shot from his place of work. That he makes it down to the second floor and is found seconds after the shooting sipping a coke is almost as good as an alibi but instead of hanging around with colleagues and answering any questions he leaves the scene, making himself a prime suspect. He also knows, prior to the shooting, that he will have to leave his weapon at the scene. He works at the TSBD but doesn't prepare a place to quickly stash the rifle and shells. Instead, knowing he is going to be questioned by police, he carries a false ID in his wallet connecting him to the rifle he knows is going to be found.
Escape plan? His plan should have been to get out of the building and get to Mexico, not go home, get a gun, kill a police officer then go to the cinema.
The guy was obviously a moron.
Michael Walton:
Paul, as you said, witness testimony is not always accurate. Memory gets fuzzy and people were not standing around that day waiting for it to happen so they could burn it into memory and give perfect testimony.
So you're now talking about the ballistics. Take a look at the photo below.
These are FBI agents reenacting the shooting. They have stickers on the JFK stand in. They have the upper shoulder shot sticker quite accurately based on the autopsy and its photos. So far so good. But take a look at the one on the neck. There's no evidence that a rear shot was ever found on the rear of the neck, which means that sticker is showing where the *front* neck wound took place.
So we're now talking ballistics. Yes, you may say that you're not an expert in this but it doesn't take an expert to see with your own eyes how a bullet coming downward from the building would enter where the shoulder sticker is and exit ABOVE where the neck sticker is on the front of the throat, then go on to hit Connolly further DOWNWARD in the armpit.
Then 6 months later, after the lawyers massaged these wounds into a single shot that miraculously did all of this, we have the magic bullet. Is it any wonder that even the most jaded person researcher would find this a little off?
Do you not find this the least bit intriguing? Suspicious? Or are you simply too biased to see that?
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