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Offline Colin Crow

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I didn’t say anything about a loss of focus. I said that he was focused on answering the questions that he was asked. That is what is expected from people who are testifying before commissions and courts of law.

Here is a question and his answer....

Mr. BELIN. And then after lunch, where did you go?
Mr. BRENNAN. I finished lunch and I glanced at a clock--I don't know exactly where the clock is located--and noticed it was 12:18. So I thought I still had a few minutes, that I might see the parade and the President. I walked to the corner of Houston and Elm.

The question relates to his travels after lunch. His response it to initially say what time it was. He remembered looking at a clock, tells them the time although this was not asked of him. Then he relates his journey.

The later after describing his final resting place on the wall Ford asks him about the time he took up position. We get the following.

Representative Ford. Are those the positions where you were sitting on November 22?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. At about 12?
Mr. BRENNAN. From about 12:22 or 12:24 until the time of the assassination.

Brennan is required to inform of the time he took up position and he gives an approximation. No mention of a time based on looking at his watch. This was the prefect chance to relate that information. But you prefer to take an memory published 20 years after the event as your gospel guide to the time.

I have already spelled out some of the problems with your “assembled facts analysis.” Your dismissal of Brennan’s book shows just how closed minded and biased you are.

If you have a point to make, spell it out completely so we can respond properly. Otherwise, I am not interested in playing your game.

If you could simply point to your spelling I would appreciate the opportunity to address each of them individually. A simple dismissal seems rather glib. I did not dismiss Brennan's book, merely the 12.22 memory you quoted from it. Why do you feel the need to attribute exaggerated claims against those who disagree with you? As I have not dismissed "Brennan’s book" as you stated I will reclaim my open mindedness and lack of bias back.

You are clearly not willing or able to discuss the questions raised surrounding the events. Your fear of simply answering a simple yes no question puts you amongst the category of DVP and Bill Brown who were similarly reluctant to embark on a journey of discovery. However I believe they refused to engage because they knew the destination. I think you simply fear the unknown. At least I can give JohnM credit for accepting my analysis, we simply differed on who Bonnie Ray saw on the 6th floor.


Offline Bill Chapman

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Wasn't it two bodies and a wrist and a thigh?

FMJ ammo is designed to over-penetrate
Can you figure out why, or are you just going to run your mouth?

Offline Bill Chapman

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:D Naturally if the WCR said so.
Don't look now, your fly's down.

The WC said so? That's news to me.
Point out who in the WC knew anything about what FMJ ammo was designed to do.
Or that the Geneva/Copenhagen Conventions mandated that bullets must be jacketed.

Now see if you can figure out why they did that.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 05:56:50 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Because Chapman doesn’t know squat about the case, he doesn’t realize that the “noticeable dent” was caused by samples being removed for testing.

:'(

So the bullet was even closer to what it was designed to do.
Tell us what FMJ ammo was designed to do.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 06:25:43 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Peter Goth

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The WC said so? That's news to me.
Point out who in the WC knew anything about what FMJ ammo was designed to do.
Or that the Geneva/Copenhagen Conventions mandated that bullets must be jacketed.

Now see if you can figure out why they did that.

not likely on a half assed investigation.
good luck with that
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 12:19:30 PM by Peter Goth »

Offline Peter Goth

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It actually over performed.

If it was even fired the 22nd.

You have evidence it was?

 :D don't expect much, perhaps some posey.
Or a cut & paste he didn't read.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 12:26:04 PM by Peter Goth »

Offline Charles Collins

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Here is a question and his answer....

Mr. BELIN. And then after lunch, where did you go?
Mr. BRENNAN. I finished lunch and I glanced at a clock--I don't know exactly where the clock is located--and noticed it was 12:18. So I thought I still had a few minutes, that I might see the parade and the President. I walked to the corner of Houston and Elm.

The question relates to his travels after lunch. His response it to initially say what time it was. He remembered looking at a clock, tells them the time although this was not asked of him. Then he relates his journey.

The later after describing his final resting place on the wall Ford asks him about the time he took up position. We get the following.

Representative Ford. Are those the positions where you were sitting on November 22?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. At about 12?
Mr. BRENNAN. From about 12:22 or 12:24 until the time of the assassination.

Brennan is required to inform of the time he took up position and he gives an approximation. No mention of a time based on looking at his watch. This was the prefect chance to relate that information. But you prefer to take an memory published 20 years after the event as your gospel guide to the time.

If you could simply point to your spelling I would appreciate the opportunity to address each of them individually. A simple dismissal seems rather glib. I did not dismiss Brennan's book, merely the 12.22 memory you quoted from it. Why do you feel the need to attribute exaggerated claims against those who disagree with you? As I have not dismissed "Brennan’s book" as you stated I will reclaim my open mindedness and lack of bias back.

You are clearly not willing or able to discuss the questions raised surrounding the events. Your fear of simply answering a simple yes no question puts you amongst the category of DVP and Bill Brown who were similarly reluctant to embark on a journey of discovery. However I believe they refused to engage because they knew the destination. I think you simply fear the unknown. At least I can give JohnM credit for accepting my analysis, we simply differed on who Bonnie Ray saw on the 6th floor.


As I have not dismissed "Brennan’s book" as you stated I will reclaim my open mindedness and lack of bias back.


Fascinating analysis about Brennan's focus during the WC testimony....

And yet...

Mr. BELIN. And then after lunch, where did you go?
Mr. BRENNAN. I finished lunch and I glanced at a clock--I don't know exactly where the clock is located--and noticed it was 12:18. So I thought I still had a few minutes, that I might see the parade and the President. I walked to the corner of Houston and Elm.


Later he simply offers 12.22-12.24. No recollection of his watch at that point in 1964 under oath.

He offers this. He remembered a specific time leaving the cafe....go figure. He obviously lost focus later on and forgot about looking at his watch but remembered doing so for a book written years later.....of course. One published posthumously in 1987. Right on the money.

And you say I am full of it.....


It sure appears to me that you dismissed the book! You can claim anything you want back. But it ain’t gonna wash with me.