If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

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Offline Colin Crow

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So we have established that the accumulated evidence means nothing and your opinion is based on "belief" of an unsupported narrative. Missing fingerprints that you don’t know of is part of your rebuttal. Not much else but acceptance of a proven liar by his own statements.

Williams was eating in the SN until about 12.25pm. There is ample evidence evidence in the assembled documentation that establishes that. You simply need to adjust your Oswald alone theory to accomodate for it. Or just continue to ignore the obvious inconvenient conclusions. I think we both know the route you will choose.

Disappointingly predictable wasn’t it.

Online Charles Collins

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Disappointingly predictable wasn’t it.

What we have is the obvious contradiction of calling the sworn testimony of BRW a lie out of one side of your mouth and then the recollection of Howard Brennan a fabrication because it wasn’t in his testimony. And the just as obvious conclusion that you actually rejected both of them because they don’t fit your imagined scenario.

It’s easy to just make stuff up and believe it if you are only having a conversation with yourself. Isn’t it?

Offline Colin Crow

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What we have is the obvious contradiction of calling the sworn testimony of BRW a lie out of one side of your mouth and then the recollection of Howard Brennan a fabrication because it wasn’t in his testimony. And the just as obvious conclusion that you actually rejected both of them because they don’t fit your imagined scenario.

It’s easy to just make stuff up and believe it if you are only having a conversation with yourself. Isn’t it?

What we have is your use of a single uncorroborated "memory" long after the fact to support your "belief" of Brennan. No big deal, he was likely out by a minute or so. Why did you prefer his book anecdote over his WC testimony? Williams lies started way before his testimony to the WC and are documented for all to see if you take the time to analyse them. Was your scenario imagined or spoon fed?

Online Charles Collins

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What we have is your use of a single uncorroborated "memory" long after the fact to support your "belief" of Brennan. No big deal, he was likely out by a minute or so. Why did you prefer his book anecdote over his WC testimony? Williams lies started way before his testimony to the WC and are documented for all to see if you take the time to analyse them. Was your scenario imagined or spoon fed?

Brennan was focused on answering questions during his testimony. He wasn't asked about whether or not he looked at his watch. In his book he included more detail. It is that simple. Here is his relevant testimony:

Mr. BELIN. I ask you to state, if you know, what this is.
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. That is the retaining wall
Representative Ford. Are those the positions where you were sitting on November 22?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. At about 12
Mr. BRENNAN. From about 12:22 or 12:24 until the time of the assassination.

He has described a window of time. The details he includes in his book says he looked at his watch and it was about 12:22. The time of 12:22 is within the time frame he testified to. That is corroboration. Where else is corroboration supposed to come from in your mind for this detail? Was someone supposed to be watching Brennan closely enough to know when he looked at his watch, then make a note of it and later testify that he saw Brennan look at his watch at the correct time? You are so full of it that it is sad....

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Brennan was focused on answering questions during his testimony. He wasn't asked about whether or not he looked at his watch. In his book he included more detail. It is that simple. Here is his relevant testimony:

Mr. BELIN. I ask you to state, if you know, what this is.
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. That is the retaining wall
Representative Ford. Are those the positions where you were sitting on November 22?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. At about 12
Mr. BRENNAN. From about 12:22 or 12:24 until the time of the assassination.

He has described a window of time. The details he includes in his book says he looked at his watch and it was about 12:22. The time of 12:22 is within the time frame he testified to. That is corroboration. Where else is corroboration supposed to come from in your mind for this detail? Was someone supposed to be watching Brennan closely enough to know when he looked at his watch, then make a note of it and later testify that he saw Brennan look at his watch at the correct time? You are so full of it that it is sad....

A statement by Brennan can never be corroboration for a statement by Brennan! It's just the same guy saying the same thing (or nearly the same thing) twice.

Offline Colin Crow

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Brennan was focused on answering questions during his testimony. He wasn't asked about whether or not he looked at his watch. In his book he included more detail. It is that simple. Here is his relevant testimony:

Mr. BELIN. I ask you to state, if you know, what this is.
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. That is the retaining wall
Representative Ford. Are those the positions where you were sitting on November 22?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. At about 12
Mr. BRENNAN. From about 12:22 or 12:24 until the time of the assassination.

He has described a window of time. The details he includes in his book says he looked at his watch and it was about 12:22. The time of 12:22 is within the time frame he testified to. That is corroboration. Where else is corroboration supposed to come from in your mind for this detail? Was someone supposed to be watching Brennan closely enough to know when he looked at his watch, then make a note of it and later testify that he saw Brennan look at his watch at the correct time? You are so full of it that it is sad....

You might recall I mentioned the guy having the epileptic fit and the ambulance attending. I went to the trouble to find the calls to them in the police transcripts. The ambulance received the call just before 12.19 and departed about 12.25. That’s the sort of thing that can be used for corroboration. Your comments about me simply reflect on yourself. Your choice to look like a fool. I don’t believe you even know what corroboration is.

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You might recall I mentioned the guy having the epileptic fit and the ambulance attending. I went to the trouble to find the calls to them in the police transcripts. The ambulance received the call just before 12.19 and departed about 12.25. That’s the sort of thing that can be used for corroboration. Your comments about me simply reflect on yourself. Your choice to look like a fool. I don’t believe you even know what corroboration is.

You are the one that posted Brennan’s testimony and appeared to be trying to make out like the only way that you would would accept anything from him is if it was sworn testimony. I suppose I assumed that to be the case. The problem with using the time of the ambulance for the purpose of corroboration of when Brennan got there is your apparent assumptions that the ambulance was gone before Brennan got to his spot at the intersection.