If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

[Bill Chapman]

CTers & JAQers have exactly zero evidence to prove that AnybodyButOswald even so much as made an attempt to shoot Kennedy that day. CTers & JAQers have proven nothing to show that someone other than Oswald shot Tippit. And if any of you CTers or JAQers can prove someone other than [name your shooter] knew there was going to be an attempt made on Kennedy that day, feel free to call a press conference.

[Martin Weidmann]

Dear Marty,

If Hidell wasn't Oswald, then who was he?

A guy whose real name was Hidell?

An evil, evil, evil CIA / FBI / DPD agent or officer?

A humanitarian KGB ... saint?

(You tend to believe it was the former, right?)

--  MWT 

PS  Is handwriting analysis done by specialists at the FBI to be ignored when it tells you something you don't want to hear?

PPS  Can you prove that "Hidell's" money order /  paperwork was handled suspiciously differently than that of other customers by the same mail order gun company(s) / post office(s) / bank(s) / etc?

PPPS  How many conspirators do you figure were involved in the assassination and "the cover up"?

Hundreds?  Thousands?

PS  Is handwriting analysis done by specialists at the FBI to be ignored when it tells you something you don't want to hear?

You clearly have no knowledge about handwriting analysis otherwise you wouldn't ask such a silly question

But let me help you;

1. There isn't a handwriting expert anywhere in the world who can say with 100% certainty that something was written by a particular person to the exclusion of everybody else.

2. Handwriting experts look for items of resemblance between a questioned document and other documents that are certified to having been written by a person.
In civil and criminal cases the invidual is asked to provide several originals of the same handwritten text, written in the presence of an offical like a notary public. In this case, with Oswald being dead, the FBI handwriting experts only had old documents to compare with that they were told had been written by Oswald.

3. One of the ways in which a handwriting expert makes a determination is by comparing the pressure that was applied by the pen when the document was written as well as the flow of the pen leaving an ink trail on the paper. This can of course not be done when the questioned document is a microfilm photo copy.

Any handwriting expert that claims he, despite these problems, can say with 100% certainty that a particular person has written a particular text is a liar and a fraud!


PPS  Can you prove that "Hidell's" money order /  paperwork was handled suspiciously differently than that of other customers by the same mail order gun company(s) / post office(s) / bank(s) / etc?

No, and I don't need or have to... In fact, in making my point, I assume that the transaction was indeed conducted in exactly the same way as all the other transactions.

PPPS  How many conspirators do you figure were involved in the assassination and "the cover up"?

Who said anything about conspirators? The claim is that Oswald (pretending to be Hidell) ordered and received a rifle from Kleins.... That needs to be proven. It's really very simply. I'm surprised that you don't understand that.

[Martin Weidmann]

CTers & JAQers have exactly zero evidence to prove that AnybodyButOswald even so much as made an attempt to shoot Kennedy that day. CTers & JAQers have proven nothing to show that someone other than Oswald shot Tippit. And if any of you CTers or JAQers can prove someone other than [name your shooter] knew there was going to be an attempt made on Kennedy that day, feel free to call a press conference.

Not the old "Oswald is guilty by default, if you can't prove somebody else did it" crap again?

[John Iacoletti]

More worthless assumptions, if Ruth did in fact go through Oswald's belongings and did indeed find Oswald's rifle

Speaking of worthless assumptions...

[John Iacoletti]

Here we go with another litany of "Mytton" disinformation.

1. Oswald fills out a coupon for a rifle and mails it to Kleins

There's no evidence as to who mailed this to Kleins.  As for "filled out", that's based on unscientific handwriting "analysis" of 2 block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy (from microfilm that is now "missing") of a 2-inch order coupon.

2. Oswald's rifle C2766 was sent from Kleins to Oswald's PO box.

There is no evidence of such a package going through the mail system and being delivered or picked up by Oswald or anybody else.

3. Oswald was photographed with C2766.

Oswald was photographed with a rifle that may or may not be C2766.

4. Marina and Jeanne de Mohrenschildt testified to Oswald possessing a rifle.

What do you think that is evidence of?

5. Michael Paine moved an approx 37 inch blanket package which he guesses contained some sort of pipe and/or a folding shovel, on the floor of the garage.

What do you think that is evidence of?

6. Marina testified that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

Marina peeked in the end of a rolled up and tied blanket 6 weeks earlier and saw part of a wooden stock that she took to be a gun.

7. The night before the assassination Oswald makes an unexpected visit to Irving

What do you think that is evidence of?

8. Oswald leaves most of his money and his wedding ring with Marina

What do you think that is evidence of?

9. On the 22nd Oswald is seen in the morning with a long package.

What do you think that is evidence of?

10. Oswald tells different stories as to the contents of the package.

Unproven.  It's all hearsay.

11. Oswald tells a different story than Frazier and Randle about where the package was in Frazier's car.

Unproven.  It's all hearsay.

12. Marina directs the police to what is now an empty blanket and appears concerned that its empty.

What do you think that is evidence of?

13. Oswald's rifle was found at Oswald's work.

LOL

14. Oswald's rifle was found with Oswald's prints.

Wrong.  Prints were found by the trigger guard that were insufficient for purposes of identification.  And a heretofore unknown single partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card.

15. Oswald's rifle was found with multiple fibers which matched the multiple fibers in Oswald's arrest shirt.

...that couldn't be matched to any specific garment.

16. Oswald flees work within a few minutes

"flees".  LOL

17. Oswald takes buses and cabs in his rush to get out of town.

You don't know he was in a rush to get out of town.  "Buses and cabs", plural?  Really?

18. Oswald gets out way past his rooming house.

What do you think that is evidence of?

19. Oswald kills a cop.

LOL

20. Oswald resists arrest and attempts to kill more officers with a revolver.

LOL

21. The revolver that Oswald was arrested with exclusively matches shells that Oswald discarded at the Tippit crime scene.

The shells allegedly retrieved by civilians from an unsecured crime scene (2 missing the initials that J.M. Poe originally stated he scratched on them, and 2 that the Davises could not identify as the same shells) matched a revolver that Gerald Hill pulled out of his pocket 1.5-2 hours after Oswald's arrest.

22. Oswald jacket is retrieved from a parking lot he was confirmed as entering.

"Oswald jacket".  LOL.

[John Iacoletti]

Anybody can fill in an order form (and even forge a handwriting if need be) and send it to Kleins, but nobody other than Oswald himself could have collected the package containing the rifle.

Well, if you believe Holmes (and I realize that's a big IF), anybody could have walked up to the window, given them a box number, and collected a package.

[John Iacoletti]

CTers & JAQers have exactly zero evidence to prove that AnybodyButOswald even so much as made an attempt to shoot Kennedy that day.

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