Oswald's grand plan

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Oswald's grand plan
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2020, 03:16:26 PM »
Really?

He's dead.

No supporting evidence for that claim.

I suggested no such thing.

Any reasonable intelligent person (which immediately excludes you) would expect Klein's to retain records for some time in case of customer complains, like not receiving what was ordered.

which means?

 

Oswald would not have known what type of records that Klein's retained for this transaction or how long they would have retained them.  In addition, that consideration would not have mattered a great deal to him at the time he ordered his rifle because he did not anticipate leaving it at a crime scene to be found and traced back to him.  The circumstance presented on 11.22 were not known to him at the time he ordered the rifle.  Rather, he anticipated using it to kill Walker and then hiding it to avoid discovery.  Which is exactly what he did.  And it worked.   

Offline Thomas Graves

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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2020, 04:40:02 PM »
There is no supporting evidence for Oswald's shooting at Walker (except for Marina -- LOL)

Dear Otto,

And why would Marina say that?

Because the evil, evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil, evil FBI told her to?

LOL!

--  MWT  ;)
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2020, 02:23:12 AM »
  He risked being remembered by a gun clerk if he buys the rifle in person shortly before someone tries to shoot Walker in Dallas.
But he didn't risk being remembered by the postal clerk that brought the rifle [that supposedly killed JFK] to the post office counter.
Nice try.

Online John Mytton

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2020, 02:27:09 AM »
But he didn't risk being remembered by the postal clerk that brought the rifle [that supposedly killed JFK] to the post office counter.
Nice try.

Did the outside of Oswald's package have any indication that a rifle was within?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2020, 05:19:44 AM »
Did the outside of Oswald's package have any indication that a rifle was within?
Assuming that the rifle that A J Hidell ordered was delivered completely assembled and the packaging/box said Klein's Sporting Goods as the addressee...would have been indicative. It could have contained a pair of stilts or a pogo stick.
I think that similar rifle packaging should have been obtained and entered as evidence.
But still...Hidell would be a tough name to not remember.
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2020, 08:35:43 AM »
Assuming that the rifle that A J Hidell ordered was delivered completely assembled and the packaging/box said Klein's Sporting Goods as the addressee...would have been indicative. It could have contained a pair of stilts or a pogo stick.
I think that similar rifle packaging should have been obtained and entered as evidence.
But still...Hidell would be a tough name to not remember.

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It could have contained a pair of stilts or a pogo stick.

Exactly, it also could have been a baseball bat, a hockey stick, a golf club or basically anything that was long.







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But still...Hidell would be a tough name to not remember.

Out of thousands of names "Hidell" would be no different to any other name but maybe if he was called Alek Ballsack then that might be worth remembering.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's grand plan
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2020, 10:06:54 PM »
Wow. It's a bit hard to receive something by mail without providing an address.   Take it up with Oswald, though.  He is the one who did it and left the trail evidence.  What you are suggesting basically is that the evidence against him is so strong that we can only conclude he is innocent.  How about demonstrating to us, for example, that Oswald knew Klein's retained records of his order and could trace this transaction months later to his PO Box.  Keep in mind this was in 1963.

How about demonstrating to us, for example, that Oswald ever received this rifle by mail?