Do the Secret Service have a secret audio recording of the fatal head shot?

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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Hmm.

Okay.

Well, how do you figure JFK's head and body went back and to his left like that?

Was he shot with a bazooka?

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From my understanding, the bullet went through the skull and fragmented creating a wave of brain matter and internal pressure within the skull cavity which exploded the skull. From conservation of momentum (which follows from Newton's Third Law) the impact of the bullet on the rear of the skull would produce a small forward movement of the head, which it can be argued is seen in the Zapruder film. Equally, the explosion of brain matter would result in a movement of the head in the opposite direction. It is also argued that a neurological reaction (seen in experiments with goats I understand) could have contributed further to the back and to the left movement, causing a second movement. If so this, would mean a small forward movement, an initial movement back and to the left, then a further movement backward due to the neurological reaction. It can be argued that that is what is seen in Zapruder.

Bazookers are different types of weapons of course.
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Offline Thomas Graves

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From my understanding, the bullet went through the skull and fragmented creating a wave of brain matter and internal pressure within the skull cavity which exploded the skull. From conservation of momentum (which follows from Newton's Third Law) the impact of the bullet on the rear of the skull would produce a small forward movement of the head, which it can be argued is seen in the Zapruder film. Equally, the explosion of brain matter would result in a movement of the head in the opposite direction. It is also argued that a neurological reaction (seen in experiments with goats I understand) could have contributed further to the back and to the left movement, causing a second movement. If so this, would mean a small forward movement, an initial movement back and to the left, then a further movement backward due to the neurological reaction. It can be argued that that is what is seen in Zapruder.

Bazookas are different types of weapons of course.

Spot on.

Nicely put, as well.

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PS  And if a goodly position of the right side of his brain was expelled with great force through a palm-size hole in the upper-right portion of his scull, the "jet effect" would have propelled his head backwards, and to his left, just as we seen in the Zapruder film.
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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Spot on.

Nicely put, as well.

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PS  And if a goodly position of the right side of his brain was expelled with great force through a palm-size hole in the upper right portion of his scull, the "jet effect" would have propelled his head backwards, and to his left, just as we seen in the Zapruder film.

Indeed. Glad we agree. I struggle to tell at times from your posts what point you are making, hence my comments. Thanks.

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Indeed. Glad we agree. I struggle to tell at times from your posts what point you are making, hence my comments. Thanks.

Not at all. (British English)

I thought you were arguing the opposite with whatshisname.

My condolences.

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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Not at all. (British English)

I thought you were arguing the opposite with whatshisname.

My condolences.

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No probs. My post was more to do with which of Newton's laws was the most relevant and the understanding of what the laws mean.

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No probs. My post was more to do with which of Newton's laws was the most relevant and the understanding of what the laws mean.

Ah ha.

... Yeah, I was a bit skeptical, myself.

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  Don't know about a SS recording of the 3 Shots being fired, but I DO Believe there is a recording of the JFK Autopsy at Bethesda. Bethesda had been Upgraded just before the assassination of JFK and that upgrading included the addition of cutting edge audio/video capabilities. When you consider Everything the Govt has gone out of their way to record over the course of history, (D. Day Invasion, Battle Of Midway, etc) they Definitely would have recorded the JFK Autopsy. The violent death of Lt Cmdr Pitzer who was of the Head of Audio/Video there at Bethesda being further proof of the autopsy being recorded. 1st Class Hospital Corpsman Dennis David adds corroboration with his recalling sitting down with Pitzer a few days after the assassination. The 2 of them viewed a 16mm B/W Film of JFK being rolled over on the Autopsy Table and revealing a small Entry wound in the (R) Forehead area and a Large/Exit in the (R) Rear of JFK's head.