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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #91 on: May 20, 2020, 11:52:12 PM »
  Familiarize yourself with the Couch WC Testimony. The 8"-10" "Blood Pool" has Not been explored. This is why I continue Faulting the Old Guard Researchers. They did an abysmal job of digging into this case. How tough would it have been to get Couch back out to Dealey Plaza and have him show EXACTLY where he saw this Blood Pool? It was located somewhere down the Elm St Ext based on the Couch testimony. That Blood Pool was Easily within a baseball throw of the TSBD Steps/Landing.

Didn't that turn out to be red-colored sodie pop?

Did Couch put his finger in it and smell it, or at least photograph it or film it?

Did the evil, evil, evil Deep State authorities swipe the film?

--  MWT  ;)
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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #92 on: May 21, 2020, 06:57:49 AM »
Didn't that turn out to be red-colored sodie pop?

Did Couch put his finger in it and smell it, or at least photograph it or film it?

Did the evil, evil, evil Deep State authorities swipe the film?

--  MWT  ;)

   That colored stuff you are referring to was on the ground near the Pergola Shelter behind Zapruder. Couch saw the 8"-10" Blood Pool somewhere along the Elm St Ext very close to the TSBD.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #93 on: May 21, 2020, 07:07:17 AM »
  Familiarize yourself with the Couch WC Testimony.

I seem to know it better than you do.........

Mr. BELIN - All right. Now, you say you saw blood on the sidewalk, Mr. Couch?
Mr. COUCH - That's right.
Mr. BELIN - Where was that?
Mr. COUCH - This was the little walkway - steps and walkway that leads up to the corner, the west corner, the southwest corner of the book Depository Building. Another little sidewalk, as I recall, turns west and forms that little parkway and archway right next to the Book Depository Building.


So you hypothesize that the Wiegman film showed someone (unnoticed by anyone--or were they silenced in a cover-up?) or something (unnoticed by anyone--or were they silenced in a cover-up?) that caused a pool of alleged blood to form at the southwest corner of the Depository building?  :D

Look, Mr Storing, I get it. I really do. You will consider any explanation, however wild and illogical, for the fake shadow in Wiegman rather than the obvious one: Mr Oswald's presence.

You don't want this thing solved, do you? You just enjoy the game, and want nothing to happen that would stop it from going on forever and ever and ever.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #94 on: May 21, 2020, 03:40:00 PM »
I seem to know it better than you do.........

Mr. BELIN - All right. Now, you say you saw blood on the sidewalk, Mr. Couch?
Mr. COUCH - That's right.
Mr. BELIN - Where was that?
Mr. COUCH - This was the little walkway - steps and walkway that leads up to the corner, the west corner, the southwest corner of the book Depository Building. Another little sidewalk, as I recall, turns west and forms that little parkway and archway right next to the Book Depository Building.


So you hypothesize that the Wiegman film showed someone (unnoticed by anyone--or were they silenced in a cover-up?) or something (unnoticed by anyone--or were they silenced in a cover-up?) that caused a pool of alleged blood to form at the southwest corner of the Depository building?  :D

Look, Mr Storing, I get it. I really do. You will consider any explanation, however wild and illogical, for the fake shadow in Wiegman rather than the obvious one: Mr Oswald's presence.

You don't want this thing solved, do you? You just enjoy the game, and want nothing to happen that would stop it from going on forever and ever and ever.

    You are wandering into an area of the assassination You are Not Familiar with. Couch was riding inside Camera Car #3. He was still inside that car when it went Under the Triple Underpass. Couch's car STOPPED immediately after going Under the Triple Underpass. Couch then went BACK to the TSBD. It was at THIS Point In Time that Couch Witnessed the 8"-10" Blood Pool. This leaves Plenty of time for someone that was allegedly cloaked by the Shadow, to leave their position on the TSBD Landing/Steps and move down the Elm St Ext. and possibly be involved in that Blood Pool.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #95 on: May 21, 2020, 07:41:05 PM »
    You are wandering into an area of the assassination You are Not Familiar with. Couch was riding inside Camera Car #3. He was still inside that car when it went Under the Triple Underpass. Couch's car STOPPED immediately after going Under the Triple Underpass. Couch then went BACK to the TSBD. It was at THIS Point In Time that Couch Witnessed the 8"-10" Blood Pool.

Huh? Once again, Mr Storing, here's Mr Couch's WC testimony which you yourself cited in support of your rather desperate Anyone-But-Oswald suggestion:

Mr. BELIN - All right. Now, you say you saw blood on the sidewalk, Mr. Couch?
Mr. COUCH - That's right.
Mr. BELIN - Where was that?
Mr. COUCH - This was the little walkway - steps and walkway that leads up to the corner, the west corner, the southwest corner of the book Depository Building. Another little sidewalk, as I recall, turns west and forms that little parkway and archway right next to the Book Depository Building.


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This leaves Plenty of time for someone that was allegedly cloaked by the Shadow, to leave their position on the TSBD Landing/Steps and move down the Elm St Ext. and possibly be involved in that Blood Pool.

Your problem, Mr Storing, is not just that this speculation is wild and evidence-free, it also runs aground on your own contrived objections to Mr Oswald's having been on the steps:
-------How come no one noticed this 'someone' on the west side of the doorway during the motorcade?
-------If anyone did notice this 'someone', how could they have been made to keep quiet about it when we know that cover-ups never succeed?

But I guess those objections don't matter to you, as long as Mr Oswald's alibi is no longer the issue.

My claim, by contrast, has evidence, logic and common sense on its side: the reason why Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the second floor lunchroom before the assassination, and to have after that gone outside to watch the P. parade, was that he had indeed done those things--------------and the reason why both those claims were suppressed by the people who were supposed to be investigating the assassination, and the reason why the Wiegman film was tampered with, was that this man had an alibi that had to be suppressed at all costs.

I can bring the horse to water, Mr Storing. Not my fault if he insists on eating candyfloss.  Thumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #96 on: May 21, 2020, 07:55:22 PM »
  You have always Claimed that No One saw Oswald standing behind Lovelady.  How is it your "2 Heads" work does Not also apply to Someone Else that Might have been standing there instead of Oswald?
  No One has Ever definitely identified Prayer Man. Not everyone standing on the TSBD Landing has been identified.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade
« Reply #97 on: May 21, 2020, 08:09:35 PM »
  You have always Claimed that No One saw Oswald standing behind Lovelady.

No. Whether Mr Oswald is the man standing behind Mr Lovelady or Prayer Man, he was certainly noticed by Mr Frazier and very probably by Messrs Shelley and Lovelady too.

Mr Frazier----and probably Messrs Shelley and Lovelady-----were pressurized into keeping quiet. (But! In their same-day affidavits, they do NOT state that they did not see Mr Oswald at the time of the motorcade...)

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How is it your "2 Heads" work does Not also apply to Someone Else that Might have been standing there instead of Oswald?

Because their presence, being that of a non-employee, would have stuck out to people in a way that Mr Oswald's simply would not have.

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No One has Ever definitely identified Prayer Man. Not everyone standing on the TSBD Landing has been identified.

If Prayer Man is a Depository employee, then he is either Mr Oswald or Mr Shelley. There's no one else left.

I made every effort to find an alternative candidate in Mr Kenneth Duvall, but it didn't work. (I still think it's possible Mr Duvall was on those steps, just not in the Prayer Man position.)

I have consistently maintained that Mr Oswald was out front. My only vacillation has been whether he is Prayer Man or not. I now tend more and more to the view that he is indeed Prayer Man.

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Here's what Mr Mal Couch told the Clifton (TX) Record, 11/22/2000:

"I started toward the building where I had seen the rifle in the window. Then I saw something very weird. There was a trail of blood from the spot where the shooting occurred to the entrance of the Texas School Book Depository. I pointed it out to a man with me.

"Just then an FBI man stepped out of the building, and in his hand was an object dripping blood. It looked like a piece of hairy flesh. I know I didn't imagine this. The scene is very clear to me."


Perhaps the unshadowed Wiegman film showed Mr Lovelady holding a piece of hairy flesh in his right hand? Certainly less far-fatched than the idea of Mr Oswald's having really gone outside to watch the P. parade!

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