No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD

[John Iacoletti]

You miss the point John... not surprisingly.

Not surprisingly, your point is a bogus non-sequitur.

Most of the conspiracy books (and internet JFK Conspiracy pundits) posit Lee Harvey Oswald as being placed in the TSBD as an employee by conspirators. This is so he could be framed as the assassin of President Kennedy (on 22 November 1963).

And that would be a strawman. You don’t speak for most authors or “pundits”.

Oswald being an employee due to happenstance (or coincidence if you like) fits with him being the sole shooter who assassinated President Kennedy.

“Fits”? It would also “fit” with him not having anything to do with it.

Incidentally: If Oswald does not get a job at the TSBD, President Kennedy leaves Dallas alive. Don't give me that "a backup plan was in the works" nonsense. We can only deal with the historical record.

The nonsense is that your “historical record” is just what you happen to believe happened.

Accordingly, "No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD" means that President Kennedy would have lived to complete his first term and probably would have been elected to a second term as President of the United States.

That’s just a silly reiteration of your silly idea that JFK had to be killed at 12:30 PM CST on November 22, 1963 or not at all.

[Ross Lidell]

Not surprisingly, your point is a bogus non-sequitur.

And that would be a strawman. You don’t speak for most authors or “pundits”.

“Fits”? It would also “fit” with him not having anything to do with it.

The nonsense is that your “historical record” is just what you happen to believe happened.

That’s just a silly reiteration of your silly idea that JFK had to be killed at 12:30 PM CST on November 22, 1963 or not at all.

Not surprisingly, your point is a bogus non-sequitur.

Which point is a bogus non-sequitur?

And that would be a strawman. You don’t speak for most authors or “pundits”.

The conspiracy books (written by authors) exist and there are numerous "prominent pundits": Michael T. Griffiths is one.

I never said JFK "had to be killed" at 12:30 PM CST on November 22, 1963 or not at all.

There is zero evidence for an assassination plot after 22 November 1963 if JFK had not been killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. If you know of one or more--please provide details.

[Colin Crow]

Interesting game Ross. What if Buell's car battery finally failed and he couldn’t get it started?

By the way did anyone explain how Oswald knew that Buell's rear door was unlocked (or lock broken) for him to be able to place the package on the back seat before Buell appeared? Just wondering.

Anyone wonder why Linnie May never mentioned the "curtain rod" story to Adamcek? After all she supposedly quizzed Buell about it the afternoon before. Maybe it hadn’t been dreamt up at that point.

[Martin Weidmann]

The circumstances of Lee Harvey Oswald getting a job at a building on the route of President Kennedy's motorcade (5 weeks later) was just happenstance.

Probably true.

The idea that plotters in a conspiracy had him "placed" there is impossible.

Indeed... nobody knew at that time that Kennedy would come to Dallas and pass by the TSBD

I think I'm going to have to walk back these two statements I made earlier. I have just watch a video from the Sixth Floor Museum featuring Parkland Hospital nurse Phyllis Hall in which (around 7.12 minutes) she says that the media found in September that Kennedy might come to Dallas.

I wasn't aware of that. If true, it was already known that Kennedy would visit Dallas prior to Oswald getting the job at the TSBD. For what it's worth!

[Bill Chapman]

Interesting game Ross. What if Buell's car battery finally failed and he couldn’t get it started?

By the way did anyone explain how Oswald knew that Buell's rear door was unlocked (or lock broken) for him to be able to place the package on the back seat before Buell appeared? Just wondering.

Anyone wonder why Linnie May never mentioned the "curtain rod" story to Adamcek? After all she supposedly quizzed Buell about it the afternoon before. Maybe it hadn’t been dreamt up at that point.

'Just wondering'

Wonder no longer: Oswald rode with Buell a number of times previously. Even so, that doesn't necessarily mean he would know the lock was broken. Well, big deal: If the car was locked, do something else.

Dude, improvise.

[John Iacoletti]

Which point is a bogus non-sequitur?

This:  "If Oswald does not get a job at the TSBD, President Kennedy leaves Dallas alive."

The conspiracy books (written by authors) exist and there are numerous "prominent pundits": Michael T. Griffiths is one.

Well, if Michael T. Griffith [not Griffiths] starts posting here, you can argue with him about it.

What is your evidence that "most of the conspiracy books posit Lee Harvey Oswald as being placed in the TSBD as an employee by conspirators"?

I never said JFK "had to be killed" at 12:30 PM CST on November 22, 1963 or not at all.

See above.  You think the only way that JFK could have been killed in Dallas is by LHO from the TSBD.

There is zero evidence for an assassination plot after 22 November 1963 if JFK had not been killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. If you know of one or more--please provide details.

There is evidence, none of it very good.  For example, James Files, E. Howard Hunt, Loran Hall, William Seymour, Gerry Patrick Hemming, Ralph Yates, etc, etc, etc.

Just like there is not very good evidence against Oswald.  You keep special-pleading your own claims as winning by default.

[John Iacoletti]

'Just wondering'

Wonder no longer: Oswald rode with Buell a number of times previously. Even so, that doesn't necessarily mean he would know the lock was broken. Well, big deal: If the car was locked, do something else.

Dude, improvise.

Tell that to Ross.  He thinks that anything that's not specifically planned in advance cannot happen at all.