Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2020, 03:43:41 AM »
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BROCK advised he, WARREN REYNOLDS and various police officers from the Dallas Police Department had searched the parking lot directly behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station in efforts to locate the person responsible for the shooting, with negative results. BROCK advised, however, a Dallas, Texas, police officer, name unknown, had located a jacket underneath a 1954 Oldsmobile which was parked in parking space # 17. This jacket apparently had belonged to the person who had shortly before shot a Dallas police officer.

ROBERT BROCK was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he could not positively identify same as being identical with the individual who had passed him at Ballew's Texaco Service Station.
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FRANK CIMINO, 403 East Tenth Street, Apartment 7, Dallas, Texas, advised that on November 22, 1963, he was residing in an apartment at 405 East Tenth Street. He Stated that at around 1 p.m. he was at his apartment listening to the radio. He heard four loud noises which sounded like shots and then he heard a women scream.
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Mr. BELIN. How many people were in the lineup, if you can remember?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Four.
Mr. BELIN. Four? Did any one of the people look anything like strike that. Did you identify anyone in the lineup?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I identified the one we are talking about, Oswald. I identified him.
Mr. BELIN. You didn't know his name as Oswald at that time, did you, or did you not?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes, the next day I did. But, of course I didn't know what his name was the day that I picked him out.
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Mr. BELIN. Had you seen any pictures of Lee Harvey Oswald in the newspapers prior to the time you went to the police station lineup?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I think I saw one in the morning paper......
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember if the number 3 man in the lineup was wearing the same clothes that the man you saw at the Tippit shooting wore?
Mr. SCOGGINS. He had on a different shirt, and he didn't have a jacket on. He had on kind of a polo shirt. 
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/scoggins.htm
So Scoggins saw a nameless picture in the paper and then went down and identified the guy in the picture?!?!
That does not compute.
Reading the testimony...it seems like Belin, Ford, and Dulles rattled Scoggins to his wits end.
BTW Where is a picture of Oswald wearing a 'polo shirt'?

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2020, 03:56:41 AM »
Testimony Of Domingo Benavides

Mr. BELIN - Where were you when your vehicle stopped?
Mr. BENAVIDES - About 15 foot, just directly across the street and maybe a car length away from the police car.

~snip~

Mr. Belin: Let me ask you now, I would like you to relate again the action of the man with the gun as you saw him now.

Mr. Benavides: As I saw him, I really--I mean really got a good view of the man after the bullets were fired he had just turned. He was just turning away........

~snip~

Mr. BENAVIDES - I remember the back of his head seemed like his hairline was sort of--looked like his hairline sort of went square instead of tapered off. and he looked like he needed a haircut for about 2 weeks, but his hair didn't taper off, it kind of went down and squared off and made his head look fiat in back.

~snip~


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2020, 04:47:18 AM »
That was Ted Callaway who may have very well committed a crime by taking that policeman's gun in the first place.

And if other witnesses had seen Callaway leaving the scene with a gun, would that be evidence that Callaway just shot Tippit? That’s the folly of the LN argument.

Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2020, 05:52:43 AM »
Who used Lee Oswald's Smith & Wesson revolver to shoot Officer Tippit?

I hope you're prepared for a rude awakening Mr Lidell.....   JD Tippit was NOT killed by using the Smith & Wesson 38 revolver  that appeared  at the Texas theater.

Nobody has been able to trace the bullets from Tippit's body to that revolver....   THAT is a fact.

And the reason the bullets can't be traced to the S&W revolver is because the killer WAS NOT using a S&W revolver.   Virtually all of the witnesses who saw the killer removing spent shells from his revolver said that he removed the spent shells ONE AT A TIME....as he walked away from the murder scene.   The SW is not unloaded in that fashion....The S&W ejects all six chambers AT THE SAME TIME....   But don't take my word..... Just read FBI agent Cunningham's testimony to LBJ's cover up committee. .....

And the reason the bullets can't be traced to the S&W revolver is because the killer WAS NOT using a S&W revolver.

Wrong. Oswald's Smith & Wesson Victory revolver had been re-chambered but not re-barreled. The bullets were of a slightly smaller diameter than the barrel of the gun. Additionally, the barrel had been shortened from 6 inches to 2 1/2 inches: There was less distance for a bullet to traverse the lands and grooves to leave consistent engravings.


  Virtually all of the witnesses who saw the killer removing spent shells from his revolver said that he removed the spent shells ONE AT A TIME....as he walked away from the murder scene.   The SW is not unloaded in that fashion....The S&W ejects all six chambers AT THE SAME TIME....   But don't take my word..... Just read FBI agent Cunningham's testimony to LBJ's cover up committee. .....

That testimony is contradicted by the physical evidence which must take precedence. The revolver taken from Lee Harvey Oswald when he tried to shoot Officer N.M. McDonald in the Texas Theater was the murder weapon in the killing of Officer J.D. Tippit.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2020, 07:02:05 AM »
That testimony is contradicted by the physical evidence which must take precedence.

Then stop misrepresenting the evidence.

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The revolver taken from Lee Harvey Oswald

You don’t know what revolver (if any) was taken from Lee Harvey Oswald.

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when he tried to shoot Officer N.M. McDonald in the Texas Theater

There’s no evidence that he tried to shoot Officer N.M. McDonald.

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was the murder weapon in the killing of Officer J.D. Tippit.

You can’t determine what weapon killed Officer J.D. Tippit.

Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2020, 07:11:52 AM »
Then stop misrepresenting the evidence.

You don’t know what revolver (if any) was taken from Lee Harvey Oswald.

There’s no evidence that he tried to shoot Officer N.M. McDonald.

You can’t determine what weapon killed Officer J.D. Tippit.

More of your nonsense born out of a need to respond to every post; not ashamed that you contribute nothing of substance to this forum: Just denials of the historical record unsupported by any evidence. 

Very disappointing, John. I spend hours producing superb Vids and they fail to penetrate your devilish, closed mind.
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964
« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2020, 09:32:16 AM »
I spend hours producing superb Vids

What does this vid offer other than vague testimony? Anybody can produce a vid trying to push a narrative they want to sell.