Oswald killed Tippit -- Helen Markham confirms her ID on CBS 1964

[John Iacoletti]

A stupid vague riposte. Look at the video of Helen Markham and what she says.

What I'm trying to figure out is if you think this video reveals any information that isn't already in her previous statements and testimony.

[Ross Lidell]

I thought it was amusing that she knowed it was that man ‘cause she couldn’t keep her eyes off of him.  Almost as amusing as the way she picked him because when he looked at her she got cold chills and fell over.

Perhaps, John, you've had little experience with women? They tend to be emotional: some more than others.

We both agree that Markham's Teyxsus accent is amusing. 

The cold chills and almost fainted thing is illuminating rather than amusing.

[John Iacoletti]

The cold chills and almost fainted thing is illuminating rather than amusing.

Perhaps it's more sad than amusing.  What a basis for identifying someone.  Not from his face, or his clothing, or because she recognized him, but because she got cold chills and fell over when she looked at his eyes.

[Martin Weidmann]

If multiple witnesses place Oswald at or near the scene of the crime (murder of Officer J.D. Tippit) the timing discrepancy theories cannot be correct. Physical presence trumps calculations based on perception--every time.

Eye witness testimony is the least reliable there is. Ask 10 people about an event they just watched and you get 10 different stories..... Most eye witnesses only saw Tippit's killer for a couple of seconds during high consternation.

And there is no timing discrepancy. Oswald last confirmed sighting was at around 1.03 pm at the bus stop in front of the roominghouse. He was seen there by Earlene Roberts who had just turned to television on for the 1 pm news, when Oswald entered the room. If he physically couldn't have been at the location where Tippit was shot at the time of the murder, he couldn't have been the murderer. Eye witnesses may well have seen somebody looking like him.

[Ross Lidell]

Eye witness testimony is the least reliable there is. Ask 10 people about an event they just watched and you get 10 different stories..... Most eye witnesses only saw Tippit's killer for a couple of seconds during high consternation.

And there is no timing discrepancy. Oswald last confirmed sighting was at around 1.03 pm at the bus stop in front of the roominghouse. He was seen there by Earlene Roberts who had just turned to television on for the 1 pm news, when Oswald entered the room. If he physically couldn't have been at the location where Tippit was shot at the time of the murder, he couldn't have been the murderer. Eye witnesses may well have seen somebody looking like him.

Eye witnesses may well have seen somebody looking like him.

Ha, ha. A man who looked like Oswald was observed by many witnesses at or near the scene of the Tippit killing. What a remarkable coincidence that Oswald worked in the building from where shots were fired at President Kennedy. Oswald had no alibi for the time that the shots were fired. Incidentally, 90 seconds after the shots were fired is not an alibi.

The timing discrepancy defense based on an speed of movement from North Beckley to Tenth and Patton does not work. It may have before the horse and buggy era. With motorized transport.... Oswald traveling between those two points in 12 minutes (if that's what it was) is not IMPOSSIBLE. Oswald could have gotten a lift (part of the way) in a car. I don't think that happened but it's a possibility no matter how slim.

[Walt Cakebread]

Perhaps it's more sad than amusing.  What a basis for identifying someone.  Not from his face, or his clothing, or because she recognized him, but because she got cold chills and fell over when she looked at his eyes.

she got cold chills and fell over when she looked at his eyes.

Maybe Markham thought she was seeing Elvis Presley

[Martin Weidmann]

Eye witnesses may well have seen somebody looking like him.

Ha, ha. A man who looked like Oswald was observed by many witnesses at or near the scene of the Tippit killing. What a remarkable coincidence that Oswald worked in the building from where shots were fired at President Kennedy. Oswald had no alibi for the time that the shots were fired. Incidentally, 90 seconds after the shots were fired is not an alibi.

Dismissing possibilities and biased ridicule aren't evidence of a crime. Neither is conjecture.