Fidel

[Charles Collins]

OK Charlie..... It's fun to believe fairy tales.   But Castro did NOT control the Russian troops, or the missiles.

Not for very long:

Another quote from “Guerrilla Prince” by Georgie Anne Geyer:

“As the missiles were leaving his island, Castro's tongue exploded with every scatological and cursing word he could grasp for. He railed at Khrushchev to the editors of Revolución, screaming, "Son of a bitch! Bastard! Asshole!" Later he would call Khrushchev a "maricón," or homosexual.“

[Walt Cakebread]

Not for very long:

Another quote from “Guerrilla Prince” by Georgie Anne Geyer:

“As the missiles were leaving his island, Castro's tongue exploded with every scatological and cursing word he could grasp for. He railed at Khrushchev to the editors of Revolución, screaming, "Son of a bitch! Bastard! Asshole!" Later he would call Khrushchev a "maricón," or homosexual.“

He railed at Khrushchev to the editors of Revolución, screaming, "Son of a bitch! Bastard! Asshole!" Later he would call Khrushchev a "maricón," or homosexual.“

Castro was not a coward or an illiterate  by any stretch of the imagination.   He had a great vocabulary......

[John Tonkovich]

Journalist Jean Daniel was with Fidel Castro when JFK was assassinated. Even though they had conversed the previous night from 10 pm until 4 am. Here is a quote of Castro from the all-night session:

“Kennedy could still be this man. He still has the possibility of becoming, in the eyes of history, the greatest President of the United States, the leader who may at last understand that there can be coexistence between capitalists and socialists, even in the Americas. He would then be an even greater President than Lincoln. I know, for example, that for Khrushchev, Kennedy is a man you can talk with. I have gotten this impression from all my conversations with Khrushchev. Other leaders have assured me that to attain this goal, we must first await his re-election. Personally, I consider him responsible for everything, but I will say this: he has come to understand many things over the past few months; and then too, in the last analysis, I’m convinced that anyone else would be worse.” Then Fidel had added with a broad and boyish grin: “If you see him again, you can tell him that I’m willing to declare Goldwater my friend if that will guarantee Kennedy’s re-election!”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/120460/fidel-castro-reaction-kennedy-assassination-cuba

Fidel Castro reportedly knew that the Kennedy brothers were trying to assassinate him and overthrow his regime. In my opinion, this was deliberate smoke to cover that he knew an assassination attempt was going to happen the next day. I can’t imagine that he actually meant this...

"Reportedly " ?
Uh, the Bay of Pigs was a bit more than "reportedly ", yes?

Anyhow, amazing you can divine the true meaning of Castro's words. Do you also read tea leaves?

[Charles Collins]

"Reportedly " ?
Uh, the Bay of Pigs was a bit more than "reportedly ", yes?

Anyhow, amazing you can divine the true meaning of Castro's words. Do you also read tea leaves?

In my post, the word reportedly is referring to Castro’s knowledge regarding the Kennedy brothers. Amazing that you would appear to post that it refers to the bay of pigs.

I stated very clearly that it was my opinion. You are perfectly free to disagree with it.

[Walt Cakebread]

"Reportedly " ?
Uh, the Bay of Pigs was a bit more than "reportedly ", yes?

Anyhow, amazing you can divine the true meaning of Castro's words. Do you also read tea leaves?

Uh, the Bay of Pigs was a bit more than "reportedly ", yes?


BOP was NOT JFK's doing..... He inherited the illegal operation from Tricky Dick Nixon , Eisenhower, Dulles and Bissell.   At the time he took office the time bomb was already ticking and he hadn't been in office long enough to get the renegade CIA under control.   In fact he tried to dissuade  the JCOS and the CIA and find a way out of the mess....

[Charles Collins]

Uh, the Bay of Pigs was a bit more than "reportedly ", yes?


BOP was NOT JFK's doing..... He inherited the illegal operation from Tricky Dick Nixon , Eisenhower, Dulles and Bissell.   At the time he took office the time bomb was already ticking and he hadn't been in office long enough to get the renegade CIA under control.   In fact he tried to dissuade  the JCOS and the CIA and find a way out of the mess....

I found this passage from “Guerrilla Prince” by Georgie Anne Geyer interesting:

“Allen Dulles, the CIA director who always seemed so imperiously removed from any second-guessing, took the Bay of Pigs disaster with a rare personalness. On April 19, he arrived at Richard Nixon's home for a meeting, and he was noticeably and unaccustomedly nervous. Did he want a drink? "I certainly would," the spy chief said, "I really need one. This is the worst day of my life." Then, again in totally unaccustomed form, he worried over why he had not warned Kennedy that the air cover was absolutely necessary. "I should have told him that we must not fail," he told Nixon. Then he shook his head. "I came close to doing so but I didn't."”

[Walt Cakebread]

I found this passage from “Guerrilla Prince” by Georgie Anne Geyer interesting:

“Allen Dulles, the CIA director who always seemed so imperiously removed from any second-guessing, took the Bay of Pigs disaster with a rare personalness. On April 19, he arrived at Richard Nixon's home for a meeting, and he was noticeably and unaccustomedly nervous. Did he want a drink? "I certainly would," the spy chief said, "I really need one. This is the worst day of my life." Then, again in totally unaccustomed form, he worried over why he had not warned Kennedy that the air cover was absolutely necessary. "I should have told him that we must not fail," he told Nixon. Then he shook his head. "I came close to doing so but I didn't."”

The BOP is a long sad tale of perfidy , double dealing, and treachery by those who should have been on JFK's team.

JFK was Navy all the way....  He was from the school who believed that the Ex O should cover for the Captain....

When he realized that he couldn't defuse the ticking time bomb he decided to let the CIA take the reins ....And he put General Cabell at the controls in the role of his EX O .....  He thought that Cabell would authorize the second air strike on the Cuban airfields that hadn't been destroyed in the first strike But Cabell was NOT Navy and didn't understand that he had the authority to run the operation and he lacked the guts to proceed .