Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2020, 02:14:36 PM »
As were many others.

Indeed, which makes the WC findings, which were largely based on the information from those witnesses, unreliable as well

Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2020, 02:18:51 PM »
Indeed, which makes the WC findings, which were largely based on the information from those witnesses, unreliable as well

When eyewitness accounts conflict with each other, the accounts that agree with the physical evidence should have greater weight. And accounts given immediately after an event are often the more accurate accounts.

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2020, 02:29:58 PM »

When eyewitness accounts conflict with each other, the accounts that agree with the physical evidence should have greater weight. And accounts given immediately after an event are often the more accurate accounts.


True, but in this instance a blanket statement with very little significance.

What physical evidence supports or agrees with Earlene Roberts' testimony?


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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2020, 02:30:19 PM »
Oswald couldn't have walked the distance in 10 minutes, but what is more important is the answer to the question why he would go to 10th/Patton in the first place. There is nothing there. So, not only why would he walk there, when he could have gone in far more plausible directions, but also why would he even run to get there?

Just how many people do you know run to a go-nowhere destination for no apparant reason?

Huh?  We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.  Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest.  Whatever plan he had was disrupted within a few minutes after leaving his boardinghouse.  Only Oswald would know where he was heading.  The Boston bomber ended up hiding in a boat in someone's backyard.  I don't think that was part of his plan.

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2020, 02:39:06 PM »
True, but in this instance a blanket statement with very little significance.

What physical evidence supports or agrees with Earlene Roberts' testimony?

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take. This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him. It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2020, 02:39:50 PM »
Huh?  We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.  Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest.  Whatever plan he had was disrupted within a few minutes after leaving his boardinghouse.  Only Oswald would know where he was heading.  The Boston bomber ended up hiding in a boat in someone's backyard.  I don't think that was part of his plan.

We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.

Do you ever think before your write something as stupid as this? If you don't know what Oswald's intended destination was, you also do not know that it wasn't 10th/Patton!

Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest. 

Was he? By running (because walking wouldn't have gotten him there on time to kill Tippit) to a go-nowhere residential location as 10th/Patton where he would stand out like a sore thumb, when he had ample opportunities to get out of town fast on public transport. That makes sense to you?

Only Oswald would know where he was heading.

True, so why do you claim to know that his destination wasn't 10th/Patton?


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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2020, 02:45:15 PM »
The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take. This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him. It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take.

And what physical evidence would that be?

This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him

She only saw him at the roominghouse and outside of it, waiting at a bus stop, so no, it does not agree with Robert's statements. All Roberts could say is that she thought Oswald was in a hurry when he entered the roominghouse... That's all!

It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

Of course you do, because, just like the WC, you try to shape the evidence to fit your preconceived narrative, rather than looking at all the evidence honestly.

Roberts saw Oswald standing at the bus stop, she did not see him running anywhere!