Shells, rifle, SN... Who?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2020, 09:24:55 PM »
So, my dear Mr Iacoletti I'm compelled to accept ( because of the overwhelming evidence provided by virtually all of the police officers) that the spent shells were 6.5mm .

I thought you called all the Dallas cops “damn liars”...

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2020, 10:19:52 PM »
There comes a point when a good investigator simply accepts some information as valid even though there may be those who doubt.....  So, my dear Mr Iacoletti I'm compelled to accept ( because of the overwhelming evidence provided by virtually all of the police officers) that the spent shells were 6.5mm .

However..... you are free to believe that the rifle was a 7.65 mauser if you wish to appear to be in imbecile.

You're far more sensible when you're channeling your LNer mode.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2020, 12:00:24 AM »
I thought you called all the Dallas cops “damn liars”...

No liar,  lies 100% of the time.....  In the overall scheme of things the DPD were "damned liars".....  And some were more prolific liars than others....Two of the biggest liars were Captain Will Fritz, and Detective John Carl Day......

Offline Jack Trojan

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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2020, 12:19:36 AM »
No liar,  lies 100% of the time.....  In the overall scheme of things the DPD were "damned liars".....  And some were more prolific liars than others....Two of the biggest liars were Captain Will Fritz, and Detective John Carl Day......

What about Roger Craig? Was he a damned liar too? Why would a conspirator lie about reading "7.65 Mauser" off the barrel of the rifle? He was obviously not "in on it" so why do you think he was lying?

If Craig was telling the truth, then there were 2 rifles and Alyea didn't film the Mauser. Otherwise, if ANY shots came from the SN then it was NOT from the Carcano because that was the patsy rifle that was pre-planted as were the hulls. Or do you still believe that the MC was used in the assassination?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2020, 12:34:23 AM »
Then why did 3 deputies (one of whom who worked at a sporting goods store) with 6 good eyes call it a Mauser?

And not just a Mauser, but a 7.65 Mauser.

John, watch this video frame by frame .....Starting at the first frame....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-L8ZBnJxU

What is the position of the rifle in the first frame when Lt Day reaches out and grabs the sling ?     What is the position of that leather sling?... Is it at 12:00 O'clock ( toward the ceiling)   3:00 O'Clock ----6:00 O'Clock --or 9:00 O'Clock  ?     
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2020, 12:38:42 AM »
What about Roger Craig? Was he a damned liar too? Why would a conspirator lie about reading "7.65 Mauser" off the barrel of the rifle? He was obviously not "in on it" so why do you think he was lying?

If Craig was telling the truth, then there were 2 rifles and Alyea didn't film the Mauser. Otherwise, if ANY shots came from the SN then it was NOT from the Carcano because that was the patsy rifle that was pre-planted as were the hulls. Or do you still believe that the MC was used in the assassination?

Roger Craig had a real mental problem.....( Mary Ferrell who knew Craig personally, said that Craig was a compulsive liar)   Once he had stuck his neck out and swore that the rifle was a 7.65 Mauser, his mental problem would not llow him to admit that he was wrong.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2020, 12:58:12 AM »
Roger Craig had a real mental problem.....( Mary Ferrell who knew Craig personally, said that Craig was a compulsive liar)   Once he had stuck his neck out and swore that the rifle was a 7.65 Mauser, his mental problem would not llow him to admit that he was wrong.

That's pretty damned thin. So Craig's "mental problem" invented the 7.65 Mauser part? And why do you believe that the rifle Craig was reading was the same rifle in the Alyea film? Was it because Fritz or Day said so?
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