Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2020, 02:39:34 AM »
Physical evidence trumps "opinion".

That Oswald's prints are on the bag is indisputable.

Of course it’s disputable. Any subjective non-repeatable judgment call is disputable.

But even if it wasn’t...what do you think this is evidence OF? That Oswald touched that particular piece of paper?

Ok, then.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2020, 03:41:15 AM by John Iacoletti »

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2020, 05:20:36 AM »
Guys...all my gun cases are made of paper 8)
Paper is really strong especially when wet didn't you know?
Paper keeps the barrel and the ammo dry too.
BTW...was gun oil found on the bag...I forgot?
If so...where did it come from?--- because none was found in all the stuff they had on Oswald.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2020, 02:26:36 AM »
    "Each series of three shots landed within areas ranging in diameter from 3 to 5 inches.
     Although all of the shots were a few inches high and to the right of the target, this was
     because of a defect in the scope which was recognized by the FBI agents and which
     they could have compensated for if they were aiming to hit a bull's-eye. They were
     instead firing to determine how rapidly the weapon could be fired and the area within
     which three shots could be placed. Frazier testified that while he could not tell when the
     defect occurred, but that a person familiar with the weapon could compensate for it."
           -- Warren Report, USGPO, p194

You're quoting the WR?  :D

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2020, 12:48:32 PM »
Two questions for you John (and anyone else).

1. When was the SN photo taken and by whom?

2. Can you provide any evidence that the cover was sealed at both ends at any time?

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2020, 03:15:38 PM »
The CTer song and dance goes like this:

1) cast doubt on the bag being found even though multiple witnesses confirm that is what happened (i.e. everyone who saw it is a liar and potential conspirator)
2) suggest it is not the bag described by Frazier  (i.e. Frazier's estimate is precise with scientific accuracy)
3) then argue that even if Oswald touched it (unlucky guy that day!), it doesn't prove he carried a rifle in it or that it was his bag (the old impossible standard of proof trick in which no fact can ever be proven because no logical inference is ever allowed from the totality of circumstances).

Back on planet Earth, we know the following:

1) Oswald made an unexpected trip on the night before the assassination to the location where he kept his rifle
2) He carried a long bag to work the following morning which he confirmed to Frazier was not his lunch
3) No long bag matching Frazier's exact description was ever found in the TSBD and Oswald himself denied carrying any such long bag instead claiming he carried only his lunch (either making him or Frazier a liar)
4) The bag was found near the SN from which bullet casings from Oswald's rifle were found (on the same floor where his rifle was found)
5) Oswald's prints were on the bag and the nearby SN boxes (unlike any other TSBD employee) and rifle
6) The bag is long enough to contain the rifle found on that floor which belonged to Oswald
7) No one who worked in the TSBD has ever come forward with any explanation as to why this strange bag was on the 6th floor or suggest that it had some work-related purpose for being there or that it belonged to them.  As a result, there in no explanation for the bag's presence in that location by anyone else who worked in the building.  There are no apparent examples of any such similar bags in the building to suggest a work-related purpose for such a bag despite a number of photos taken on that floor and search of the building. The bag appears to be an unexplained anomaly after 50 plus years if not the bag used by Oswald to carry the rifle.


Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2020, 03:33:08 PM »
The CTer song and dance goes like this:

1) cast doubt on the bag being found even though multiple witnesses confirm that is what happened (i.e. everyone who saw it is a liar and potential conspirator)
2) suggest it is not the bag described by Frazier  (i.e. Frazier's estimate is precise with scientific accuracy)
3) then argue that even if Oswald touched it (unlucky guy that day!), it doesn't prove he carried a rifle in it or that it was his bag (the old impossible standard of proof trick in which no fact can ever be proven because no logical inference is ever allowed from the totality of circumstances).

Back on planet Earth, we know the following:

1) Oswald made an unexpected trip on the night before the assassination to the location where he kept his rifle
2) He carried a long bag to work the following morning which he confirmed to Frazier was not his lunch
3) No long bag matching Frazier's exact description was ever found in the TSBD and Oswald himself denied carrying any such long bag instead claiming he carried only his lunch (either making him or Frazier a liar)
4) The bag was found near the SN from which bullet casings from Oswald's rifle were found (on the same floor where his rifle was found)
5) Oswald's prints were on the bag and the nearby SN boxes (unlike any other TSBD employee) and rifle
6) The bag is long enough to contain the rifle found on that floor which belonged to Oswald
7) No one who worked in the TSBD has ever come forward with any explanation as to why this strange bag was on the 6th floor or suggest that it had some work-related purpose for being there or that it belonged to them.  As a result, there in no explanation for the bag's presence in that location by anyone else who worked in the building.  There are no apparent examples of any such similar bags in the building to suggest a work-related purpose for such a bag despite a number of photos taken on that floor and search of the building. The bag appears to be an unexplained anomaly after 50 plus years if not the bag used by Oswald to carry the rifle.

Richard,

It's amazing how much trouble the conspirators went to to frame Marine marksman and self-avowed Marxist, Lee Harvey Oswald.

But wait. That "Marxist" persona was just something evil, evil, evil Alan Dulles and James Angleton foisted upon wannabe triple-agent Oswald so they could invade Cuba and nuke the USSR after they'd patsied him for the the murder of their hated nemesis, JFK.

(LOL)

--  MWT  ;)

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2020, 03:53:40 PM »
Richard,

It's amazing how much trouble the conspirators went to to frame Marine marksman and self-avowed Marxist, Lee Harvey Oswald.

But wait. That "Marxist" persona was just something evil, evil, evil Alan Dulles and James Angleton foisted upon wannabe triple-agent Oswald so they could invade Cuba and nuke the USSR after they'd patsied him for the the murder of their hated nemesis, JFK.

(LOL)

--  MWT  ;)

Uh, what proof do you have that Oswald was manipulated by the Soviets and Cubans?
Thanks.