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Offline Brian Doyle

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Kamp Doubles Down On Hosty Note Hoax
« on: January 16, 2020, 05:08:40 PM »
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Pat Speer one would think you make posts like these purely with an agenda in mind. I only see a diversion in your speculative point(s) with regards to the thread's subject. 95% of what you wrote is utterly irrelevant to this thread. But we know why this is don't we? Trying to diminish the document's importance, out of jealousy? Spite? Or is it just wilful denial?. Not that I give a toss, it had its desired effect already one year ago.  Other people have tried to do this, with the most ridiculous arguments such as that irrelevant fabricating twit Brain Doyle, Yours is a tad more refined but still it doesn't wash at all. Whether it is a draft is a non-issue and you are actually missing the point with your remark.  The header of this thread is: Best of the Year 2019? Now then, is any BS  of the swamp called MC the best of 2019? I don't think so. No amount of innuendo and make believe  from you is going to change that.

Kamp is once again trying to resurrect his bogus claim that the Hosty Notes showed Oswald was outside as Prayer Man...

He is once again trying to suggest that the "Went outside to watch P. parade" is an indication that Oswald told the interviewers in the Fritz interrogation that he was outside on the front steps during the shots...

The means by which Kamp achieves this deception is to omit the part of those same Hosty notes that line up with the Fritz and Bookhout notes just before the "P. parade" part...

Kamp knows this full, correct interpretation of the Hosty Notes disproves his begging-the-point method that he isn't afraid to insult the intelligence of the community with...

If you overlap the Fritz and Bookhout notes with the Hosty Notes you will see the "went to the 2nd floor to get a coca cola" part perfectly aligns with the "Claims 2nd floor Coke when officer came in"...Kamp knows this which is why he dishonestly omitted it for his readers...

Overlap the two accounts and you will see an outstanding alignment of these characteristics...

This is followed by a perfect aligning of the "To 1st floor had lunch" of the Fritz/Boookhout notes with Hosty's next line "and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch"...

There is no contesting the fact that the chronology of these events happening with the 2nd floor lunch room encounter as their starting point is more than established in the visible structure of the notes...

Kamp is trying to contend that the Hosty notes were the original version that revealed the correct chronology and that the Fritz/Bookhout versions were alterations in order to conceal this...

However another brazen omission Parker-acolyte Kamp commits is he avoids lining up some serious other witnessing that would lend understanding to those notes and their correct interpretation...

Kamp is trying to normalize the fact he is in dishonest denial of Carolyn Arnold's witnessing of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room eating lunch at 12:25 as she insisted to Earl Golz...

Kamp is also committing the research mortal sin of ignoring important break-through evidence that obviously refutes him...The Kamp gang acts like savages in a jungle who rule by intimidation, bullying, and censorship...

In 2018 I discovered what is probably the most important new evidence in JFK assassination research in 40 years...I discovered a new witness to Oswald's whereabouts just prior to the assassination...

Sarah Stanton witnessed Oswald hiding from Mrs Reid and the women employees who were in the 2nd floor lunch room trying to get their lunches in before the motorcade so they wouldn't miss eating...

Oswald was on the 2nd floor staircase landing with the soda he already bought...He told Stanton that he intended to go back in to the break room and wasn't going out to watch the motorcade...

We know this is true because Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald in that 2nd floor white collar lunch room shortly after...

This greater evidence calibrates the Fritz/Bookhout/Hosty notes because once you overlap both Stanton and Arnold's witnessings on to the chronology of the three main events in the 3 versions of the Fritz interrogation notes it becomes highly unlikely that Oswald hopscotched down to the 1st floor after the Stanton encounter only to go right back up to the 2nd floor lunch room for the Carolyn Arnold encounter...It makes much more sense that Oswald did what he told Stanton he intended to do and went in to the 2nd floor lunch room where he was seen by Carolyn Arnold.

Kamp's version would have Oswald shuttling back and forth between the Domino Room and 2nd floor lunch room in order to make his version work...Arnold said Oswald was set up and eating lunch in his regular booth seat...Kamp's version has Oswald grabbing his lunch and running up and down to the Domino Room with it bundled in his arms...

There's another giant elephant Kamp is trying to hide with his honest guy sales pitch...There was not a single witness to his version of Oswald going out to watch the Presidential parade...Not a single person...And Kamp achieves this nervy deception by ignoring the witnesses who did see Oswald in and around the 2nd floor lunch room or saying they are lying...

Let's look at Kamp's version...It requires you to sign-on and take Kamp's word that Stanton, Arnold, and Baker & Truly were all lying and Parker/Kamp are telling the truth with their Tom Sawyer assurance...They are telling you to ignore the 3 sets of witnesses that did see Oswald and take their word even though there are no witnesses to what should have been a highly-visible Oswald on the front steps...

The JFK research community has destroyed its credibility and done so via a gang of punks that should be obvious for what they are...They are acting like boys in a schoolyard and kicking the pitcher who just no-hit them off the playground because they think he pitches too rough...

This post belongs on the Education Forum where the membership deserves the right to see the correct evidence and see how a real snake is trying to con them...Only you have a Lord Of The Flies situation there where the Prayer Man tribe members have now taken over the site under a nincompoop moderator who is friends with the Prayer Man mob and doesn't know what he is doing...

Fritz gave the game away when he told the Commission Oswald said he was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...You can see the Commission stop the questioning in order to get Fritz back on track in the testimony...
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 05:19:28 PM »

   As usual, You over complicate the situation. What credibility does a person being Q/A'd for murder have, when apprehended this same person was carrying a concealed weapon and a False ID in his back pocket?

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Re: Kamp Doubles Down On Hosty Note Hoax
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2020, 05:46:12 PM »
Kamp wrote:

Kamp is once again trying to resurrect his bogus claim that the Hosty Notes showed Oswald was outside as Prayer Man...

He is once again trying to suggest that the "Went outside to watch P. parade" is an indication that Oswald told the interviewers in the Fritz interrogation that he was outside on the front steps during the shots...

The means by which Kamp achieves this deception is to omit the part of those same Hosty notes that line up with the Fritz and Bookhout notes just before the "P. parade" part...

Kamp knows this full, correct interpretation of the Hosty Notes disproves his begging-the-point method that he isn't afraid to insult the intelligence of the community with...

If you overlap the Fritz and Bookhout notes with the Hosty Notes you will see the "went to the 2nd floor to get a coca cola" part perfectly aligns with the "Claims 2nd floor Coke when officer came in"...Kamp knows this which is why he dishonestly omitted it for his readers...

Overlap the two accounts and you will see an outstanding alignment of these characteristics...

This is followed by a perfect aligning of the "To 1st floor had lunch" of the Fritz/Boookhout notes with Hosty's next line "and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch"...

There is no contesting the fact that the chronology of these events happening with the 2nd floor lunch room encounter as their starting point is more than established in the visible structure of the notes...

Kamp is trying to contend that the Hosty notes were the original version that revealed the correct chronology and that the Fritz/Bookhout versions were alterations in order to conceal this...

However another brazen omission Parker-acolyte Kamp commits is he avoids lining up some serious other witnessing that would lend understanding to those notes and their correct interpretation...

Kamp is trying to normalize the fact he is in dishonest denial of Carolyn Arnold's witnessing of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room eating lunch at 12:25 as she insisted to Earl Golz...

Kamp is also committing the research mortal sin of ignoring important break-through evidence that obviously refutes him...The Kamp gang acts like savages in a jungle who rule by intimidation, bullying, and censorship...

In 2018 I discovered what is probably the most important new evidence in JFK assassination research in 40 years...I discovered a new witness to Oswald's whereabouts just prior to the assassination...

Sarah Stanton witnessed Oswald hiding from Mrs Reid and the women employees who were in the 2nd floor lunch room trying to get their lunches in before the motorcade so they wouldn't miss eating...

Oswald was on the 2nd floor staircase landing with the soda he already bought...He told Stanton that he intended to go back in to the break room and wasn't going out to watch the motorcade...

We know this is true because Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald in that 2nd floor white collar lunch room shortly after...

This greater evidence calibrates the Fritz/Bookhout/Hosty notes because once you overlap both Stanton and Arnold's witnessings on to the chronology of the three main events in the 3 versions of the Fritz interrogation notes it becomes highly unlikely that Oswald hopscotched down to the 1st floor after the Stanton encounter only to go right back up to the 2nd floor lunch room for the Carolyn Arnold encounter...It makes much more sense that Oswald did what he told Stanton he intended to do and went in to the 2nd floor lunch room where he was seen by Carolyn Arnold.

Kamp's version would have Oswald shuttling back and forth between the Domino Room and 2nd floor lunch room in order to make his version work...Arnold said Oswald was set up and eating lunch in his regular booth seat...Kamp's version has Oswald grabbing his lunch and running up and down to the Domino Room with it bundled in his arms...

There's another giant elephant Kamp is trying to hide with his honest guy sales pitch...There was not a single witness to his version of Oswald going out to watch the Presidential parade...Not a single person...And Kamp achieves this nervy deception by ignoring the witnesses who did see Oswald in and around the 2nd floor lunch room or saying they are lying...

Let's look at Kamp's version...It requires you to sign-on and take Kamp's word that Stanton, Arnold, and Baker & Truly were all lying and Parker/Kamp are telling the truth with their Tom Sawyer assurance...They are telling you to ignore the 3 sets of witnesses that did see Oswald and take their word even though there are no witnesses to what should have been a highly-visible Oswald on the front steps...

The JFK research community has destroyed its credibility and done so via a gang of punks that should be obvious for what they are...They are acting like boys in a schoolyard and kicking the pitcher who just no-hit them off the playground because they think he pitches too rough...

This post belongs on the Education Forum where the membership deserves the right to see the correct evidence and see how a real snake is trying to con them...Only you have a Lord Of The Flies situation there where the Prayer Man tribe members have now taken over the site under a nincompoop moderator who is friends with the Prayer Man mob and doesn't know what he is doing...

Fritz gave the game away when he told the Commission Oswald said he was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...You can see the Commission stop the questioning in order to get Fritz back on track in the testimony...

Gosh, Albut, you're improving...... separating your sentences from the 'one blob' paragraph...... now all you have to do is learn to post images to back up your claims.  Do you still read Raff* Sink's 'oswald in the doorway' blog?  You could learn a thing or two from that creature.  Just sayin'.

I still opine that it was some dude off the street taking pictures with HIS camera.  Just my humble opinion.  What say you?  No, wait......

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Re: Kamp Doubles Down On Hosty Note Hoax
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2020, 05:46:12 PM »

Offline Brian Doyle

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2020, 06:06:20 PM »

You can see the EF members ignoring Kamp and yet another one of his highly-flawed Prayer Man articles...

They know Prayer Man is Stanton but are sticking to the dirty win gotten by bully moderation and censorship...

Kamp dismisses my evidence with a hand wave but anyone with common sense can see he's avoiding discussing it directly because it blows his silly Prayer Man garbage out of the water...

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2020, 06:25:03 PM »
Oh goody.  Yet another whining thread from Doyle about his Prayerperson narrative.

In 2018 I discovered what is probably the most important new evidence in JFK assassination research in 40 years...I discovered a new witness to Oswald's whereabouts just prior to the assassination...

No you didn't.  You made up a false story with no basis in anything that any witness actually said, or even anything that anybody actually told you.

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This greater evidence calibrates the Fritz/Bookhout/Hosty notes because once you overlap both Stanton and Arnold's witnessings on to the chronology of the three main events in the 3 versions of the Fritz interrogation notes it becomes highly unlikely that Oswald hopscotched down to the 1st floor after the Stanton encounter only to go right back up to the 2nd floor lunch room for the Carolyn Arnold encounter...

If you're such a fan of the Fritz/Bookhout/Hosty notes then you shouldn't handwave away the fact that they ALL say that Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when the motorcade went by.  What you think is "highly unlikely" is highly irrelevant.


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Kamp's version would have Oswald shuttling back and forth between the Domino Room and 2nd floor lunch room in order to make his version work...Arnold said Oswald was set up and eating lunch in his regular booth seat...

Another false quote.  The Golz article says NOTHING about a "regular booth seat".

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There's another giant elephant Kamp is trying to hide with his honest guy sales pitch...There was not a single witness to his version of Oswald going out to watch the Presidential parade...Not a single person...

But he has a Hosty note that says that Oswald said this.  You have no statement, note, interview, or anything whatsoever that would place Oswald in the second floor lunchroom at the time of the motorcade.  Just a made-up story based on what you think is "likely".

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And Kamp achieves this nervy deception by ignoring the witnesses who did see Oswald in and around the 2nd floor lunch room or saying they are lying...

There is NO WITNESS to Oswald's whereabouts at 12:30 PM.  None.  Sorry.

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Let's look at Kamp's version...It requires you to sign-on and take Kamp's word that Stanton, Arnold, and Baker & Truly were all lying and Parker/Kamp are telling the truth with their Tom Sawyer assurance...

Bull.  None of these people ever claimed to see Oswald at the time the motorcade went by.  They are not witnesses to your fabricated narrative.

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This post belongs on the Education Forum where the membership deserves the right to see the correct evidence and see how a real snake is trying to con them...

You got kicked out.  Get over it.  You deserve to be kicked out.

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Fritz gave the game away when he told the Commission Oswald said he was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...You can see the Commission stop the questioning in order to get Fritz back on track in the testimony...

Another fabrication.  Fritz corrected his own poor memory of what his report and all the interrogation reports actually said.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2020, 08:15:18 PM »

Steely Dan didn't cut and paste my original post here because he knows it demolishes Kamp...

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2020, 11:14:26 PM »
Sarah Stanton witnessed Oswald hiding from Mrs Reid and the women employees who were in the 2nd floor lunch room trying to get their lunches in before the motorcade so they wouldn't miss eating...
Sarah Stanton: 3-18-64 statement to the FBI, 22H675) "I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day."

Sarah Stanton's FBI statement says she did not see Oswald that day. Doyle spins his own version of events that are not credible or verified. He accuses others for the same thing he does. Doyle ignores important information in favor of his made up claims. Doyle has no problem using other witnesses FBI statements but he fabricates his own lies for their words. When it comes to Sarah Stanton's FBI statement, Doyle says: "The FBI changed her statement."

Hey Doyle, credible researchers don't ignore good evidence. Practice what you preach.   

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 12:17:49 AM »

Rick Plants defends the notorious liars FBI...

Rick Plant ignores the fact we have evidence FBI seriously altered statements...Especially critical witness Carolyn Arnold who had a key witnessing of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room...In Plant's mind it is OK to ignore this and not involve it in your estimations...

Plant has no concern what so ever and would be fine never following through on the fact Stanton kept repeating the same story of seeing Oswald outside the 2nd floor lunch room on the staircase landing...In Plant's mind he has no problem with the serious conflict involved with that...

The overall effect of Greg Parker and his BS Prayer Man theory is to back FBI and the Commission over the main witnesses and what they really witnessed that FBI tried to cover-up...

 

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