A Candidate For Prayer Person?

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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2019, 09:48:30 AM »
Fantastic work, Mr Ford, thank you!  Thumb1:

Is there any chance you could post the photograph in question here so we could take a look? If Mr DuVall's hair looks nothing like PrayerManInDarnell's, then I will not hesitate to rule him out!

Amen, brother!  Thumb1:



Compare with this nonsense...



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PrayerPerson was a dude taking pictures with a camera (photo or 8mm film).  Nobody was paying attention to who was standing next to whom whilst the president was a-goin' by......  this was history !!!  But alas, it wasn't Oswald.  He was busy upstairs killing the president.  The evidence is overwhelming.....
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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2019, 05:06:20 PM »

At 12:30pm, CST, on 11/22/'63, there were numerous persons that were known to be standing on the top step/landing and stairs of the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building as the Presidential Motorcade turned onto Elm St and drove past the Elm St Entrance. And, said persons being employed at the TSBD Bldg, most if not all, knew who LeeHarveyOswald was. And, if not then certainly later, knew him by sight and name.

However, not a single eyewitness/occupant of the top step/landing/stairs ever gave sworn statements/testimony that LHO was on said top step/landing/stairs as the Limousine carrying President and Mrs Kennedy, as well as Governor and Mrs Connally drove past the TSBD Bldg.

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Offline Chris Davidson

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2019, 05:28:48 PM »
Friends, now that Mr Oswald has been found in the Wiegman film-----------



-----------we can rule him out as Prayer Person in WiegmanThumb1:

As I have argued elsewhere, Prayer Person in Wiegman is in fact Mr Bill Shelley.

But! Who is Prayer Person in Darnell?



It's not Mr Shelley, that's for sure.

Could it be Mr Oswald? It's just possible, though I now strongly doubt it (for a reason I won't go into here... oh alright then: white tshirt!).

The problem is, no other Depository employee fits the bill.  :'(

However! Here's a new candidate: Mr Ken DuVall.

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Did you eliminate other possible causes of the Wiegman double images?
How about "camera shake".
If interested, starting at 6min27sec in, https://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/129/the-top-4-causes-of-blurry-photos-and-how-to-fix-them/

If you start from the right hand side of the Wiegman sequence provided, which is earlier in the film sequence, from right to left (3 frames), the shake is slowly steadying while the prayerperson image in the shadows becomes more in focus, albeit still in shadow.
Same concept in the two left-hand frames.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2019, 05:49:29 PM »
Did you eliminate other possible causes of the Wiegman double images?
How about "camera shake".
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If you start from the right hand side of the Wiegman sequence provided, which is earlier in the film sequence, from right to left (3 frames), the shake is slowly steadying while the prayerperson image in the shadows becomes more in focus, albeit still in shadow.
Same concept in the two left-hand frames.

There is of course some camera shake & motion blur in these frames, but the phenomenon in multiple Lovelady@HigherElevation frames of a double head, one higher than the other, only attaches itself to Mr Lovelady------------the person in the doorway who has a 'shadow' down his side that (despite the best efforts of you & others, Mr Davidson) cannot be explained as a natural shadow.

If this were in the Zapruder film, you would be all over it!

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Offline Alan J. Ford

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2019, 06:01:10 PM »
Nothing more than intimidation, Mr. Trotter, especially when the safety and well being of one's loved ones are at stake/risk. Courage doesn't grow on trees, Mr. Trotter, especially when the risk far outweigh the rewards.

We all know what becomes of anyone who dares to come forward with the truth, especially if it involves seeing say the late John Gotti mete out mob "justice". Suddenly, amid a real paralyzing fear, no one saw anything. Same paralyzing fear  is evident here in this case as well. Those people out on the steps there were essentially made an offer they could not refuse. It's that simple really.

The wrongly accused was right out there with them, how else could he have known precisely where Bill Shelley stood? Anyone genuinely up on the sixth floor and/or 2nd floor could not see Bill Shelly's specific position back in the landing.

 The wrongly accused was framed.
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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2019, 06:42:56 PM »
Great thanks for posting this 1963 photograph of Mr DuVall!  Thumb1:

Not sure we can write off his being Prayer Man from this...



Mr DuVall is in sunlight here, but his hair on the left side (i.e. right as we look) looks quite dark (compare the effect of the sun on his wife's dark hair!).

If Mr Duvall's hair was not quite so tightly cut on 11/22/63, and if we are seeing Prayer Man's head in profile, then this could be a match IMO.

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[/img][/img] <----- made several good faith efforts to insert a much clearer photo for review, Mr. Ford, with any good fortune my forum benefactor, who has already aided me twice now w/posting a photo will complete the hat trick. Thanks in advance, cheers.

Otherwise, click on the following link for a much clearer Prayer Man comparison ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Scroll down to 3rd image. Unlike Mr. DuVall, Prayer Man does not present with a forehead shaped "V".
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2019, 07:24:19 PM »
[/img][/img] <----- made several good faith efforts to insert a much clearer photo for review, Mr. Ford, with any good fortune my forum benefactor, who has already aided me twice now w/posting a photo will complete the hat trick. Thanks in advance, cheers.

Otherwise, click on the following link for a much clearer Prayer Man comparison ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Scroll down to 3rd image. Unlike Mr. DuVall, Prayer Man does not present with a forehead shaped "V".

Hmmm, to be honest, Mr Ford, I'm not sure this enhancement isn't adding information not in the original image:



If Mr Duvall in shadow and with somewhat longer hair------------



------------were to rotate into near-full profile, I think he might well appear this way:



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