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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #110 on: December 04, 2019, 08:20:06 PM »
What point? You refuse to engage in the details because you are woefully ignorant of them. You’re here to play games and try to look “clever”.

Nice. Very nice. Like this one. I'm still waiting for one of the geniuses here to tell me how in the XXXX that bullet went upward and out of the neck...

So after all of the blather here with photos of skinny guys in underwear and photos of the murder taken much earlier but somehow magically being synced up with the Z film. And of faulty methodologies and proper ingredients (or better ingredients if you eat Papa John - LOL), I ask here again:

Here's the FBI reenactment photo down on the ground. The G Men got the wound positioning correct based on the autopsy:



And then of course they went ahead and filmed this reenactment from the so-called [throw down] sniper's nest:



You can tell the cast of characters in the first photo are the same as the second during the filmed reenactment. You can also see the sticker exactly where it's supposed to be. One of the Oswald Did It believers here agrees with this.

Now there's going to be more blathering here. The seat heights weren't the same in the limo...it's a Cadillac vs. the Lincoln limo. My hunch is that the G Men didn't care about this because they figured the main thrust here was to see where the bullet from the 6th floor was going to go from start to finish. After all, they did get the wound placement right based on the stickers. Further, the JBC stand-in is slightly inboard from the JFK one which is also right.

And yet - look at that second photo. How did it exit from Kennedy's throat? It's impossible logically and plausibly.

And as the text says in the image, the wound terminated, meaning it was not a through and through exit [based on the autopsy].

So...commence the debate [or excuses], please.

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #110 on: December 04, 2019, 08:20:06 PM »

Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #111 on: December 04, 2019, 08:43:22 PM »
What point? You refuse to engage in the details because you are woefully ignorant of them. You’re here to play games and try to look “clever”.

Nice. Very nice. Like this one. I'm still waiting for one of the geniuses here to tell me how in the XXXX that bullet went upward and out of the neck...

First I've heard you mention "upward". I kept asking you for specifics.

How do your graphics show a bullet going upwards? Make the jacket bunch upwards a bit as in life, and a downward trajectory at the base of the back of the neck will transit to emerge near the base of the front of the neck. Or is the acknowledgement of the jacket bunch a case of woeful ignorance?

 

Why the autopsy photo? Did the FBI do a second autopsy on Elm Street?

Offline Michael Walton

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2019, 10:39:10 PM »
Come on, Jerry. Are you really that obtuse? Every time I post this, you keep taking things literally and expect me to explain it to you further.

I'm not going to do that. If you can't figure it out what I'm trying to show and say here, I don't know what else to say except we'll keep going around in circles with this.

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2019, 10:39:10 PM »

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #113 on: December 05, 2019, 12:56:09 AM »
Come on, Jerry. Are you really that obtuse? Every time I post this, you keep taking things literally and expect me to explain it to you further.

I'm not going to do that. If you can't figure it out what I'm trying to show and say here, I don't know what else to say except we'll keep going around in circles with this.

And if I do so, I'm putting words in your mouth. How long will it take to articulate something in a sentence or two? Your contention is something simple and obvious, right? You're the one being evasive. You became downright non-responsive after your post in another topic: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2311.msg69539.html#msg69539

One graphic has a cropped autopsy photo stuck on a re-enactment photo and the other graphic claims there was no exit. I dealt with the latter by citing the Lattimer test and HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel in another topic. Fine if we disagree but don't say you're not getting answers.

Does the autopsy photo in the re-enactment graphic have some significance?

As explained, the re-enactment and autopsy photo were taken at different camera angles, and therefore the surface of the back and shoulders appearing in each photo show at a different angle. The autopsy photo shows an entry wound at the base of the back of the neck. A projection from there to the exit wound at the base of the front of the throat is downward.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2019, 09:18:30 PM »
Just a rule reminder for Chapman.

"Behave at all times, no swearing, racism or personal insults."

 :'(

Point out where I show racism here.
And I push back far better than you talentless dullards.

Go ahead, make my day
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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2019, 10:56:23 PM »

Nice. Very nice. Like this one. I'm still waiting for one of the geniuses here to tell me how in the XXXX that bullet went upward and out of the neck...

The bullet never went upward. It's trajectory was always downward.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #116 on: December 09, 2019, 11:54:15 PM »
What point? You refuse to engage in the details because you are woefully ignorant of them. You’re here to play games and try to look “clever”.
  I'm still waiting for one of the geniuses here to tell me how in the XXXX that bullet went upward and out of the neck...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/autopsy-descriptive-sheet-0 

The bullet never went upward. It's trajectory was always downward.
If that is true...according to the autopsy notes above....the bullet should have gone downward into the center of the chest.
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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2019, 12:25:31 AM »
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/autopsy-descriptive-sheet-0 
If that is true...according to the autopsy notes above....the bullet should have gone downward into the center of the chest.

According to the notations on that Face Sheet, the bullet entered 14 cm below the tip of the right mastoid process.  Correct?  The downward angle of trajectory would have had to be a hell of a lot greater than 17.5 degrees in order for the bullet to enter the center of the chest. Jerry Organ has a superb graphic explaining the path through Kennedy. Have you ever seen it?

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2019, 01:51:51 AM »
 
This graphic by unknown appears to show the missile channel would
have passed by the spine at the T1 level. But it's obvious the skull
overlay is too small, which draws upward the cervical vertebrae.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2019, 03:28:16 AM »
 
This graphic by unknown appears to show the missile channel would
have passed by the spine at the T1 level. But it's obvious the skull
overlay is too small, which draws upward the cervical vertebrae.

When are you going to accept that you can't measure a 2D image this way? Your POV is never a perfect profile and all measurements are distorted. This is not how photogrammetry is done. Do the damn 2 laser challenge if you actually care about the truth and you want to advance your argument. Otherwise, your graphics are worse than misleading.

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Re: 56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.
« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2019, 03:28:16 AM »

 

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