56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.

[Michael Walton]

I don't agree with the methodology of this particular reenactment. You're the one presenting a reenactment, that is missing the proper ingredients, as the be-all and end-all of official government findings.

The jump seat makes all the difference whether you like it or not.

EDIT: 2:00pm EST

Sure, Bill, sure. So now we're into the methodology of it. LOL. And proper ingredients. Sounds rich. You can't have it both ways, Bill. You can't buy all into it while also disagreeing with methodologies and proper ingredients, Bill. If that's the case, what about the methodologies and proper ingredients of the Magic Bullet doing all it supposedly did? And so on...

We're getting into Patty Cake territory now. Sure, Bill, sure.

[John Mytton]

Your "high-tech" laser test will always produce false positives.



Reasonable person with a legitimate interest in the truth of the case don't want to be misled by magician tricks from conspiracy loons with set-agendas.

 

I agree it's only reasonable to be fair and compare apples with apples but a lot of what the CT community does is deliberately paint a misleading picture of what happened.
Like above, they make a layman claim and demand that you prove them wrong, it's totally absurd, if Jack of all trades, master of none, was actually genuine he'd show us his "laser experiment" results and I have asked him plenty of times to show us but he just repeats the same demand that I prove him wrong over and over.

Another consideration is that Kennedy's well conditioned body shape is a factor and he wasn't some generic long necked skinny guy sitting on a chair.





And this demonstration is hardly a fair representation of reality and is downright criminal, how can Wecht honestly sleep at night? and it looks like these models are just teenagers, how dare Wecht expose these innocent young minds to such deception? and if it's at a school with kids in the audience then shame on him!



JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

How did the jump seat affect the MB bullet path thru JFK? If it can be shown that the trajectory of the MB thru JFK does not match the trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD, then Houston, we have a problem (smoking gun), which all you LNers conveniently ignore, for obvious reasons.

We're through the looking glass here. This comes down to basic geometry and proof that Oswald was not responsible for the MB.

Bump.

Do us all a solid and place JBC in the picture. You have to include the both of them if you are going to deny a twofer. Still, that drawing on your White Paper (apparently) is as generic as the JFK face sheet and means SFA to me.

However, I prefer photographs such as Croft with a 17 degree trajectory line applied. Close enough!

[John Mytton]

When both men are lined up directly back to the snipers nest window, at that EXACT same point in time in Zapruder in a fraction of a second we see;

Connally's jacket lapel explode forward.



As Kennedy raises his hand to his throat, Connally's right wrist, the same wrist that was struck by a bullet also reacts.



Both men are violently reacting simultaneously.



There's quite a bit of footage of the two men as they drove through Dallas and besides waving, at no time in this footage did they show these extreme reactions.

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

Sure, Bill, sure. So now we're into the methodology of it. LOL. And proper ingredients. Sounds rich. You can't have it both ways, Bill. You can't buy all into it while also disagreeing with methodologies and proper ingredients, Bill. If that's the case, what about the methodologies and proper ingredients of the Magic Bullet doing all it supposedly did? And so on...

We're getting into Patty Cake territory now. Sure, Bill, sure.

Sticks & stones.

In the meantime, show us what I 'bought into' exactly.

And just for the record, what I don't 'buy into' is the absence of a JBC figure in a drawing supposedly meant to trash the twofer.

[Jack Trojan]

  You mad fools! You STILL don't get it. No wonder you're LNers, you have no sense of logic or critical thinking.

I can't show you that the MB can't be done. That would be trying to prove a negative and you would accuse me of not trying hard enough. Only you can prove it was possible and you sure as hell can't do it with drawings and graphics. You guys have to get off the pot and conduct a real live physical experiment for once in your lives.

If you are so damned sure that JFK's slouch allowed the MB to "work fine", then bloody well show it with a re-enactment.  Slouch in your chair just like JFK did (or find someone who can) and position yourself so that the high laser strikes you 2 inches right of the spine at the T1 vertebrae and the low laser strikes you in the throat at the C7 vertebrae. Then take a couple of photos showing your body position and the 2 laser dots that makes the MB work fine. You don't even have to post the photos. They are your own personal proof that the MB was possible and no one can take that away from you! 

As for Mytton, he's just barely competent enough to know the significance of doing this laser re-enactment, which is why he did it long ago hoping to make me eat crow. I'm still waiting.

[Jim Brunsman]

The jump seat is irrelevant since the shot to JFK's back did not exit according to the witnesses at Bethesda. End of SBT, which was a boneheaded idea to begin with.