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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #182 on: February 14, 2020, 07:06:45 PM »
I'm not sure what the idea is regarding Brewer and Postal. Some Oswald defenders say Oswald was fleeing the scene, the TSBD, because he believed he was going to be accused of the assassination. He realized he was set up.

So if he was indeed in flight - for innocent reasons - then it makes sense that Brewer saw a frightened or worried or desperate (whatever one wants to call it) Oswald. Oswald is, in this theory, afraid and that's what Brewer saw.

But the Oswald defenders want to see conspiracies everywhere EVEN IF the facts support their "Oswald was in flight because he was framed" theory. If one truly believed Oswald was in flight for his life then Brewer's description fits into that theory. Why refute it? It helps you theory.

Some conspiracy advocates are reasonable and thoughtful; some are not. This is an example of the latter.

Lee wasn't "in flight".... He knew the plan called for him to meet his  FBI handler in the Theater.   And that's where he was going.

When Ian Griggs talked to Johnny Brewer in 1996,  Griggs asked Brewer this question: So you asked Julie to contact the police and tell them what? 

Brewer replied:...Just that there was a suspicious person in there.   I still had no reason to have somebody call the police.  I'm not sure what the hell I'm doing here to start with. 

He hadn't seen the "frightened man" in the theater when he and Butch Burroughs searched the theater just minutes earlier....So why would he tell Julia Postal to call the police???

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #183 on: February 14, 2020, 07:55:15 PM »
There is evidence - I think proof - that the shooting was broadcast over the police radio and that numerous radio stations and news organizations listened in to the police radio. They did that regularly and in particular that day. They would hear the report of the shooting over the radio.

The next question is when did they - or one of them - report on the shooting? It's very different to tell when because the radio broadcasts were not updating the time. But it was clearly reported.

Mr. Cakebread shows every day here that he is grossly misinformed on the assassination. Frankly, it's not much benefit to try and respond to him. But it's your call.
The radio broadcasts DID update the time. The radio broadcasts are linked here in the thread and on youtube. Do you have a watch? Just count the minutes.
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Mr. BREWER - We were listening to a transistor radio there in the store, just listening to a regular radio program,
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Mr. BELIN - Did you hear over the radio that the President had died?
Mr. BREWER - I heard a rumor. They said that----one of the Secret Service men
I could not locate that statement on the recordings.
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Mr. BELIN - Do you remember hearing anything else over the radio concerning anything that happened that afternoon?
Mr. BREWER - Well, they kept reconstructing what had happened and what they had heard, and they talked about it in general. There wasn't too much to talk about. They didn't have all the facts, and just repeated them mostly. And they said a patrolman had been shot in Oak Cliff.
I have asked that if this was indeed announced on the radio recording before Oswald's arrest, that the timing be diligently pinpointed on the link. So far--no takers.
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Mr. BELIN - All right, would you describe what happened after you heard on the radio that an officer had been shot?
Mr. BREWER - Well, there was heard a siren coming down East Jefferson headed toward West Jefferson.
Yet...according to the Dallas Police radio transcript.. no mention of any possible suspect was made around Brewer's area until @1:45
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm
I am not saying that Brewer was part of a plot. I am just saying that his story is obviously contrived and the Warren Commission went with it anyway.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #184 on: February 14, 2020, 09:04:11 PM »
The radio broadcasts DID update the time. The radio broadcasts are linked here in the thread and on youtube. Do you have a watch? Just count the minutes. I could not locate that statement on the recordings.I have asked that if this was indeed announced on the radio recording before Oswald's arrest, that the timing be diligently pinpointed on the link. So far--no takers.Yet...according to the Dallas Police radio transcript.. no mention of any possible suspect was made around Brewer's area until @1:45
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm
I am not saying that Brewer was part of a plot. I am just saying that his story is obviously contrived and the Warren Commission went with it anyway.

I have asked that if this was indeed announced on the radio recording before Oswald's arrest, that the timing be diligently pinpointed on the link.

Both Domingo Benavides and  Bowley  used Tippit's police band radio before 1:15.....  They spoke plain English and said that a policeman had been shot, so anybody monitoring the police radio would have heard their broadcast.  Reporters routinely monitor the police radio, so a reporter could have learned about the Tippit shooting and could have announced it over a public broadcast before 1:30.    But I don't believe there is a record of that happening.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #185 on: February 14, 2020, 11:38:40 PM »
Nobody has ever found a radio announcement of Tippit’s shooting prior to Oswald’s arrest.

I believe that it was Brewer’s after-the-fact rationalization for why he would find this person at his store front suspicious.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #186 on: February 15, 2020, 12:24:38 AM »
Nobody has ever found a radio announcement of Tippit’s shooting prior to Oswald’s arrest.I believe that it was Brewer’s after-the-fact rationalization for why he would find this person at his store front suspicious.
Whereas I don't believe Brewer saw Lee Harvey Oswald acting suspiciously or even saw him at all.
I think Johnny Brewer was directed to follow an individual that he was told sneaked into the theater. He did not get that good of look at him and that is why he didn't find him when he he first looked around. When the cops finally came, he was prompted to point out Oswald by this same individual. I still wonder what ever happened to the manager of that theater who left to go see what the cops were looking for. Why did he never show back up when the cops were all over his theater there?

 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #187 on: February 15, 2020, 12:36:26 AM »
Whereas I don't believe Brewer saw Lee Harvey Oswald acting suspiciously or even saw him at all.
I think Johnny Brewer was directed to follow an individual that he was told sneaked into the theater. He did not get that good of look at him and that is why he didn't find him when he he first looked around. When the cops finally came, he was prompted to point out Oswald by this same individual. I still wonder what ever happened to the manager of that theater who left to go see what the cops were looking for. Why did he never show back up when the cops were all over his theater there?

I don't believe Brewer saw Lee Harvey Oswald acting suspiciously or even saw him at all.

IF??  IF??   Brewer saw Lee walk by his store, his tale about Him appearing scared simply clashes with all witnesses who recognized Lee Oswald and saw him after 12:30.   All of those who knew Lee by sight said that he acted completely normal.     Of course people like Brewer who want to convict Lee Oswald try to paint him as being scared and in flight......     

Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #188 on: February 15, 2020, 02:06:53 PM »
I don't believe Brewer saw Lee Harvey Oswald acting suspiciously or even saw him at all.

IF??  IF??   Brewer saw Lee walk by his store, his tale about Him appearing scared simply clashes with all witnesses who recognized Lee Oswald and saw him after 12:30.   All of those who knew Lee by sight said that he acted completely normal.     

"He looked like a maniac" is not completely normal.