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Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on October 23, 2019, 05:54:03 AM ---And as for Baker being confused about the floor he was on is perfectly understandable because....
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Right ::)
Not all the confusion was so "perfectly understandable".
--- Quote ---What was Belin going to ask Truly about the 3rd floor?
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And then seemed to think better of it.
As usual, memory seemed to improve with time? The 3rd or 4th floor man was described as 5' 9''- 30 [OK] 165 lbs [not a good call] 'Wearing a light brown jacket' What about that?
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: Tom Scully on October 23, 2019, 07:17:59 AM ---Huh? Why did he post a hamster on a wheel? What is he trying to say?
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Probably trying to say...Get more sleep Tom.
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on October 23, 2019, 05:54:03 AM ---The testimony from a variety of sources all corroborate the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter, as they say in the classics "All roads lead to Rome".
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This is the first time I have ever heard about 'a variety of sources' corroborating the lunchroom story. Who else was there?...they say in the classics "All roads lead to Rome"---What does that mean?
Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on October 23, 2019, 05:34:52 AM --- Quote Ray Mitcham https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,562.msg52539.html#msg52539
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m3.htm
There was no response to Ray Mitcham's question. I would like to see one. Anyone? Did Truly lie about that man in saying he was working for him?What was Belin going to ask Truly about the 3rd floor? Belin asked nothing about the man Baker said they saw on the 3rd or 4th floors. Why not? When Baker was questioned by council, the 3rd or 4th floor man was apparently no longer a topic. Was the lunchroom encounter story contrived after all?
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--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on October 23, 2019, 05:34:52 AM --- Quote Ray Mitcham https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,562.msg52539.html#msg52539
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m3.htm
There was no response to Ray Mitcham's question. I would like to see one. Anyone? Did Truly lie about that man in saying he was working for him?What was Belin going to ask Truly about the 3rd floor? Belin asked nothing about the man Baker said they saw on the 3rd or 4th floors. Why not? When Baker was questioned by council, the 3rd or 4th floor man was apparently no longer a topic. Was the lunchroom encounter story contrived after all?
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Mr Mitcham was quite right to ask the question! And the answer to your question, Mr Freeman, is yes-------the lunchroom encounter story was contrived.
Mr Oswald, we now know, actually told Captain Fritz he had visited the second-floor lunchroom for a coke before the assassination and then went back down to the first floor to eat his lunch... and then 'went outside to watch P. parade'. Captain Fritz & co. kept these explosive claims a secret----------and the truth only came out very recently. when Agent Hosty's notes were unearthed!
Officer Baker encountered Mr Oswald at the front entrance to the building. He needed to know if Mr Oswald was an employee so he could show him the way to the stairs. Mr Truly then intervened and offered to escort Officer Baker.
There may have been no 'man walking away from the stairway' on the 'third or fourth floor'------------Officer Baker may have been told 'We have the assassin, he worked in the building, we need you to add him to your story'.
And then----------while Officer Baker is giving his affidavit statement based on a suspect description handed to him----------who is brought in past him only the guy he ran into at the front door!!
Does Officer Baker's affidavit note that the man in handcuffs was the man on the third or fourth floor? No.
Does Officer Baker identify Mr Oswald in a subsequent lineup as the man on the third or fourth floor? No.
Most likely Officer Baker agreed to invent an encounter with an employee by the back stairs up a few floors, but----------when he found out that the employee being accused of shooting JFK was an employee who couldn't possibly have been up on the sixth floor at the time-----------he was stunned. It would explain why he took so long to put his name to the official story!
But! If Officer Baker really did encounter a man walking away from the stairway a few floors up, it was someone involved in the assassination. Which raises the question: Why did Mr Truly vouch for him as an employee?
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Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on October 23, 2019, 01:16:02 PM ---
Probably trying to say...Get more sleep Tom.
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:D
Mr Scully doesn't want Mr Oswald's alibi to be established because no glory would accrue to Mr Scully from that... Pure narcissism!
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