Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr Oswald came close enough--which was probably the point!

We know it was not Lee Oswald.....  So WHO was it that Truly vouched for ?

[Tom Scully]

We know it was not Lee Oswald.....  So WHO was it that Truly vouched for ?

Julia Postal's boss. He was there to pick up Lee and drive him to the Theater but Baker held him up and Lee had to find his own way to the picture show, a little later. It's close to Halloween.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/59566461/john-august-callahan

The gaps in our awareness are routinely labeled "mysterious"....

Bill Simpich - Posted October 23, 2019

.....It is intriguing to note that the news story reports that it was the mysterious manager John Callahan who turned the lights on and exposed LHO to the police.  Postal said that just as Oswald entered the building, Callahan came running out the other way, and "got in his car...to see where (the police) were going."  Another report says that the "manager on duty" had seen one man in the theater "since 12:05".  To my knowledge, Callahan was never questioned by anybody.

http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/tomgreen/obits/2001/051501.txt
  JOHN AUGUST CALLAHAN
   
   John  August  Callahan,  85, passed away Monday, May 14, 2001, after a
   brief  illness.  He was born in Palestine, Texas, on Sept. 6, 1915. He
   married Mildred Patrick, also of Palestine, on May 26, 1941. He served
   overseas  in the Signal Corps and in the Merchant Marines in World War
   II.
   
   He  began  his  long  employment with Rowley United Theatres, later to
   become  United  Artists,  in  Palestine.  He  was later transferred to
   Dallas  as  city  manager of the theaters there. While in Dallas, John
   was  an active member of the Knights of Columbus, Oak Cliff Lions Club
   and  the  Variety Club. He and his family moved to San Angelo in 1966,
   where  he  served  as city manager of United Artist Theatres until his
   retirement in 1980.
   
   He  was  a  Lions Club member for 55 years and a past president of the
   Downtown  Lions  Club  in San Angelo, as well as past exalted ruler of
   the  Benevolent  Order  of  Elks.  John  was  a  member of Holy Angels
   Catholic Church......

[Walt Cakebread]

Right on, and earlier this year we saw this confused contribution by Mr. Scully addressing his pen pal Parnell as "just the facts" guy:

And from Mr. "Just the facts" himself, in case Mr. Scully's fading memory has failed to recall Parnell arriving at this "contribution":

 

We're drifting away from the basic question asked in the title of this thread....    Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

Clearly the answer is;   YES.....   Baker did not enter the investigation as a liar....   He was simply a patrolman trying to perform his duties.

But it wasn't long until he realized that his superiors ( those in control of his paycheck and career) wanted his cooperation in framing Lee Oswald. 

Baker was made aware that Lee Oswald was a dirty communist rat who had defected to Russia so he deserved being lynched....  or at least he most certainly was not deserving of  the iron  clad alibi that Baker could provide.   Baker knew very well that Lee was "DRINKING A COKE"  when he spotted him in the lunchroom, and he knew that that FACT provided the dirty commie rat with an iron clad alibi. Originally ( when he was an honest patrolman ) he said that he saw Lee "Drinking a coke " in the lunchroom .....  Later he lied and recanted his statement.

So Did Baker Lie?  There's no doubt about it....

[Alan Ford]

Baker was made aware that Lee Oswald was a dirty communist rat who had defected to Russia so he deserved being lynched.... 

Don't forget the Tippit murder!

[David Von Pein]

Mr Oswald, we now know, actually told Captain Fritz he had visited the second-floor lunchroom for a coke before the assassination and then went back down to the first floor to eat his lunch... and then 'went outside to watch P. parade'. Captain Fritz & co. kept these explosive claims a secret----------and the truth only came out very recently. when Agent Hosty's notes were unearthed!

The recent "Hosty's Notes" revelation doesn't come close to erasing the Second-Floor Lunchroom Encounter or exonerating Lee Harvey Oswald for President Kennedy's murder. And if Oswald had actually been "outside to watch P. Parade" when JFK was shot, then please tell me why I don't have this statement coming directly from Oswald's own lips in my extensive JFK assassination audio/video collection (which is a statement that all sensible people know most certainly would have been uttered by the accused assassin in front of the live television cameras and microphones on either November 22nd or November 23rd if that accused assassin had really been standing on the front stoop of the Book Depository at 12:30 PM CST on 11/22/63)....

"I can't possibly be the killer the police are looking for! I was standing outside drinking a Coke with my fellow employees Buell Wesley Frazier and Billy Lovelady when the President passed by my building! So how could I be the assassin?! This is nuts!!" -- Lee H. Oswald; Nov. 22 or 23, 1963

More on Lee Harvey Oswald's whereabouts at 12:30 PM on November 22, 1963....
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html

Officer Baker encountered Mr Oswald at the front entrance to the building. He needed to know if Mr Oswald was an employee so he could show him the way to the stairs. Mr Truly then intervened and offered to escort Officer Baker.

There may have been no 'man walking away from the stairway' on the 'third or fourth floor'------------Officer Baker may have been told 'We have the assassin, he worked in the building, we need you to add him to your story'.

And then----------while Officer Baker is giving his affidavit statement based on a suspect description handed to him----------who is brought in past him only the guy he ran into at the front door!!

Does Officer Baker's affidavit note that the man in handcuffs was the man on the third or fourth floor? No.
Does Officer Baker identify Mr Oswald in a subsequent lineup as the man on the third or fourth floor? No.

Most likely Officer Baker agreed to invent an encounter with an employee by the back stairs up a few floors, but----------when he found out that the employee being accused of shooting JFK was an employee who couldn't possibly have been up on the sixth floor at the time-----------he was stunned. It would explain why he took so long to put his name to the official story!

But! If Officer Baker really did encounter a man walking away from the stairway a few floors up, it was someone involved in the assassination. Which raises the question: Why did Mr Truly vouch for him as an employee?
 

All of the above is pure crap, of course.

It's intriguing to watch the Internet conspiracy theorists---decade after decade---invent their made-up scenarios so they can continue to pretend---year after year---that Oswald didn't fire a shot at anybody in Dallas on November 22nd. A very strange hobby, indeed.

Lots more on the Lunchroom Encounter....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-973.html

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1080.html

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1123.html

[Walt Cakebread]

Don't forget the Tippit murder!

Thank you....Yes, that was probably reason numero uno .....  Baker certainly thought that Lee had gunned down Tippit.....  and he wouldn't have provided the iron clad alibi for Lee even though he knew the truth was that Lee was drinking a coke at the time he saw him in the lunchroom.

[Alan Ford]

please tell me why I don't have this statement coming directly from Oswald's own lips in my extensive JFK assassination audio/video collection (~~~)

Because, Mr von Pein, the interrogations weren't recorded!