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Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on August 27, 2022, 01:16:38 AM ---Right. You're not a "Conspiracy Theorist" (nor a Republican).
The Adams testimony was declassified and published in 1964 ( Link ). Probably some standard procedure when having closed hearings to initially classify it "Top Secret".
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So Victoria Adams' testimony had the same classification as the nuclear launch codes? :D
Jim Hawthorn:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEpj2zES8M
Charles Collins:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on August 28, 2025, 09:24:51 AM ---//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEpj2zES8M
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The most glaring problem with this video is that Mrs. Reid was most definitely not inside the building making change for LHO at the time of the shots. She said she was outside when the motorcade went by. I believe she has been identified standing outside the building in at least one of the photographs taken that day. And she said LHO did not ask for change or anything, just kept on walking towards the front steps/elevator area.
Michael T. Griffith:
The key point is that Roy Truly was running ahead of Baker on the stairs, that Truly did not see or hear anyone on the stairs when he reached the second-floor landing, and that Baker said that he saw Oswald through the window of the foyer door.
If Oswald had gone through the second-floor foyer door before Truly reached the top of the stairs, he would have been several feet beyond the door by the time Baker reached the landing, and thus would not have been visible to Baker through the window. And, if Oswald had entered the door "only a second or two" before Baker reached the top of the stairwell, as the WC claimed, then Truly could not have missed seeing him.
Truly told the WC that he had already started up the stairs to the third floor when he noticed that Baker was no longer running behind him. Truly also said there was slightly more distance between him and Baker on the second floor than there was on the first floor. So, it is reasonable to assume that Truly gained a view of the second-floor landing a minimum of 2 seconds before Baker did. Truly's account suggests that Baker was beginning to tire on his way up the stairs. (This is understandable, given the fact that Baker had been running very fast virtually every second after he got off his bike.) Baker himself said that when he arrived to the landing and began to scan it, Truly "had already started around the bend to come to the next elevation going up" (3 H 255).
Thus, if Oswald had gone through the foyer door "a second or two" before Baker spotted him, Truly could not possibly have missed seeing Oswald coming off the stairs, or approaching the door, or starting to open the door.
Clearly, Oswald had already gone through the foyer door well before Truly reached the second-floor landing, which is further proof that he could not have been on the sixth floor during the shooting. Baker encountered Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom, and Oswald had a coke in his hand when Baker entered the lunchroom because Oswald had come down from the sixth floor at least 15 minutes earlier.
The Baker-Oswald Encounter: Proof that Oswald Did Not Shoot JFK?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vFu2SyC373LpYKZRp6v5vtCDGzlri4N0/view
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Charles Collins on August 28, 2025, 11:18:33 AM ---The most glaring problem with this video is that Mrs. Reid was most definitely not inside the building making change for LHO at the time of the shots. She said she was outside when the motorcade went by. I believe she has been identified standing outside the building in at least one of the photographs taken that day. And she said LHO did not ask for change or anything, just kept on walking towards the front steps/elevator area.
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IIRC, she said he was carrying a full bottle of Coca-Cola.
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