Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

[Walt Cakebread]

Indeed so, Mr Cakebread!

Difficult to see though how the man at the stairway on the third or fourth floor could be Mr Dougherty, who was blond and 6'1"

-------------unless they told Officer Baker at DPD HQ his recollection was wrong and these were the correct suspect details that he needed to put in his affidavit?

Mr. BELIN - Did you notice what clothes the man was wearing as he came up to you?
Mr. BAKER - At that particular time I was looking at his face, and it seemed to me like he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt.
Anyway, as I noticed him walking away from me, it was kind of dim in there that particular day, and it was hanging out to his side.

You present a good counterpoint in pointing out that Dougherty was 6'1".....   I don't know what "blond" means....  There are many shades of "blond" 

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Captain Fritz wrote this for Chief Curry, Mr Craig. He's still stuck in Script A mode here, recounting the original story DPD were going to run with.

Captain Fritz's wording ('while coming down the stairs... on the stairway') makes clear what Baker's affidavit 'walking away from the stairway' was meant to convey:

The man was coming off the stairway when Officer Baker ran into him.

Nothing like the lunchroom story that subsequently... 'emerged'!

TThe man was coming off the stairway when Officer Baker ran into him.

"Coming off the stairway"....  Yes, I believe that's a fact..... I strongly suspect that the encounter took place on the fifth floor.....  I doubt that it could have occurred on the fourth floor because there were several women on the fourth floor...and the third floor was only one floor up from the second floor lunchroom, where Baker had encountered Lee Oswald......It's not likely that Baker wouldn't have known that he'd just left a man in the lunchroom one floor down. and had climbed only one floor....

[Alan Ford]

Mr. BELIN - Did you notice what clothes the man was wearing as he came up to you?
Mr. BAKER - At that particular time I was looking at his face, and it seemed to me like he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt.
Anyway, as I noticed him walking away from me, it was kind of dim in there that particular day, and it was hanging out to his side.

You present a good counterpoint in pointing out that Dougherty was 6'1".....   I don't know what "blond" means....  There are many shades of "blond" 

Hmmm... "30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair" doesn't sound right for "great big husky" Mr Dougherty (as Mr Truly described him), no matter what the lighting. But I wouldn't close off the possibility that Baker was persuaded to amend the details for his affidavit. This before seeing Mr Oswald marched into the office.

[Walt Cakebread]

Hmmm... "30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair" doesn't sound right for "great big husky" Mr Dougherty (as Mr Truly described him), no matter what the lighting. But I wouldn't close off the possibility that Baker was persuaded to amend the details for his affidavit. This before seeing Mr Oswald marched into the office.

I believe the man that Baker saw on the  5th ?  floor was an employee....  What employee fit that description?   

[Royell Storing]

   All anyone has to do is look at the floor plan for the TSBD 2nd Floor. If Oswald had come Down that stairwell and then ducked into the vestibule, he would have utilized the Other Door inside that vestibule. That Other Door permits access to a hallway which leads to a Down stairway. That stairway empties within feet of the TSBD Front Door. Easy Peasy into the streetsy. 

[Walt Cakebread]

   All anyone has to do is look at the floor plan for the TSBD 2nd Floor. If Oswald had come Down that stairwell and then ducked into the vestibule, he would have utilized the Other Door inside that vestibule. That Other Door permits access to a hallway which leads to a Down stairway. That stairway empties within feet of the TSBD Front Door. Easy Peasy into the streetsy.

Good point, Royell....  Why the hell would a "fleeing assassin" corner himself by ducking into the lunchroom , when he had easy exit out of the building simply by taking the door into the second floor office area.

Lee was Not a fleeing assassin ....He was a chump who had been duped by conniving CIA type minds .  He had gone to the second floor lunchroom to get a Coke and that's where he was when JFK was ambushed.

[Alan Ford]

I believe the man that Baker saw on the  5th ?  floor was an employee....  What employee fit that description?

Mr Oswald came close enough--which was probably the point!