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Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Tom Scully:

--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on October 30, 2019, 04:31:55 PM ---When Dick Russell published his book The Man Who Knew Too Much  we learned that Richard Case Nagell had dispatched ( murdered) a man who was using the name Lee Oswald on September (20 ?) 1963.   Nagell had been ordered to find "Oswald" and snuff him.....   And he did.    He removed papers and ID from the dead man and among the ID cards was a copy of a card that Lee Oswald had in his possession on 11 /22/63.  The card was a "uniformed Services Identification card " bearing the number N 4, 271,617.   The card that Lee had in his possession bore a photo of Lee Oswald...But the card that Nagell removed from the body of the impostor had a different photo.

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...said Nagell, not Russell, not anyone else. Just have to take Nagell's word for it, and he was dropped on his head.




Walt Cakebread:

--- Quote from: Tom Scully on October 31, 2019, 07:02:57 AM ---...said Nagell, not Russell, not anyone else. Just have to take Nagell's word for it, and he was dropped on his head.




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There is a photo of the card on page 109 of Jesse Curry's book JFK Assassination File    Page 109

Jerry Freeman:

--- Quote from: Tom Scully on October 31, 2019, 07:02:57 AM ---...said Nagell, not Russell, not anyone else. Just have to take Nagell's word for it, and he was dropped on his head.
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What does all this have to do with Truly and Baker?
 
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on October 31, 2019, 04:25:46 AM ---Truly said he was already on the staircase to the third floor when he realized that Baker was no longer behind him and turned around and came back down.

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Which is even stranger. Which one was the law enforcement officer? Cops usually tell citizens to get out of the way..especially if they have their side-arm pulled. The idea that Baker could not advance without Truly's help is ludicrous.

Walt Cakebread:

--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on October 31, 2019, 04:25:46 AM ---Truly said he was already on the staircase to the third floor when he realized that Baker was no longer behind him and turned around and came back down.

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A couple of weeks after the coup d e'tat, the magazine US News and World Report published a story hat included an interview of Roy Truly. Truly gave a description of the second floor lunchroom encounter with Lee Oswald that is quite different than the version that was handed us by LBJ's cover up committee.

Wouldn't be great if Mr Scully would post the story that appeared in US News and World report .....

Tom Scully:

--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on October 30, 2019, 04:31:55 PM ---....   He removed papers and ID from the dead man and among the ID cards was a copy of a card that Lee Oswald had in his possession on 11 /22/63.  The card was a "uniformed Services Identification card " bearing the number N 4, 271,617.   The card that Lee had in his possession bore a photo of Lee Oswald...But the card that Nagell removed from the body of the impostor had a different photo.

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--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on October 31, 2019, 01:51:05 PM ---There is a photo of the card on page 109 of Jesse Curry's book JFK Assassination File    Page 109

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The card is linked to Oswald, per the assassination investigation and Tippit murder investigation. The only evidence linking same or similar card to Nagell is a photocopy of unknown provenance.
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49560/m1/1/?q=oswald%20identification



http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/W%20Disk/White%20Jack/Item%2008.pdf

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