Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

[Walt Cakebread]

t was reported that Fed acting guys entered the morgue and demanded privacy when Oswald arrived ....They apparently wanted something and were in a hurry to get it.

I don't doubt that some intel organization wanted to be certain that the dead man was in fact Lee H. Oswald.    Since there is evidence that they had used an impostor  Lee Oswald at least once they wanted to be certain the dead man was in fact their secret undercover agent  Lee H. Oswald.     I seriously doubt that the visit to the corpse was to plant prints on the rifle.   Can you explain how they could have gotten the corpse to perspire and secrete oils through the skin ?

When Dick Russell published his book The Man Who Knew Too Much  we learned that Richard Case Nagell had dispatched ( murdered) a man who was using the name Lee Oswald on September (20 ?) 1963.   Nagell had been ordered to find "Oswald" and snuff him.....   And he did.    He removed papers and ID from the dead man and among the ID cards was a copy of a card that Lee Oswald had in his possession on 11 /22/63.  The card was a "uniformed Services Identification card " bearing the number N 4, 271,617.   The card that Lee had in his possession bore a photo of Lee Oswald...But the card that Nagell removed from the body of the impostor had a different photo.

[Jerry Freeman]

I don't doubt that some intel organization wanted to be certain that the dead man was in fact Lee H. Oswald. Since there is evidence that they had used an impostor  Lee Oswald at least once they wanted to be certain the dead man was in fact their secret undercover agent  Lee H. Oswald. I seriously doubt that the visit to the corpse was to plant prints on the rifle. Can you explain how they could have gotten the corpse to perspire and secrete oils through the skin ?

As I am not an expert on all that I can only refer----    https://www.quora.com/Can-a-dead-body-be-identified-by-fingerprint

[Zeon Mason]

LOL!

Well, are you still prayerperson= Oswald advocate? I thought you have moved on to Oswald on the steps or Oswald in the lobby either of which, he should have been seen by Baker AND Pauline Sanders if at the front door entrance.

Where do you place  Oswald at the time that Baker is ascending up the front entrance steps to the right of the handrail?

[Alan Ford]

Well, are you still prayerperson= Oswald advocate? I thought you have moved on to Oswald on the steps or Oswald in the lobby either of which, he should have been seen by Baker AND Pauline Sanders if at the front door entrance.

False choices, Mr Mason--Mr Oswald was in different places at different points in time! And the assumption that PrayerManInWiegman = PrayerManInDarnell, while understandable, is flawed, and has IMO caused no end of confusion since the Prayer Man thing broke back in 2013!

1. In the Wiegman film Mr Oswald is just behind Mr Billy Lovelady:



He is the second 'Lovelady' head on the left as we look.

Mr Oswald's precise location was known to the cover-up investigators, for Mr Oswald had told them about it in his first interrogation. This is why the Altgens photograph (which, by a stroke of great luck, turned out only to show Mr Lovelady's face) caused such panic as soon as it emerged---------for it seemed to show that Mr Oswald was telling the truth! They were not so lucky with the Wiegman film...

'PrayerMan' in Wiegman is almost certainly Mr Bill Shelley.

2. In the Darnell film Mr Oswald is very probably PrayerMan:



I say only very probably because, although no other serious other candidate has ever been put forward, it is just about possible that someone who had been down in the street has gone up the steps to that position since Wiegman.

If Mr Oswald is not PrayerMan in Darnell, then

-----------this does not make Ms Stanton PrayerMan ( =a laughable notion!  )
-----------Mr Oswald has probably already slipped back in the front lobby.

Either way, Mr Oswald is about to...

3. ... have an encounter with Officer Baker (and Mr Truly) in that vestibule (front lobby).

This encounter will be seen (see what the DPD told reporters later that day and what Mr Lovelady told Mr Junior Jarman) and Mr Oswald will tell Captain Fritz about it (see Mr Holmes' WC testimony).

The second-floor lunchroom story------and its pendant, the encounter with Mrs Reid in the office area-------will be invented to bury these simple facts, for Mr Oswald's alibi must not be allowed to stand!

Where do you place  Oswald at the time that Baker is ascending up the front entrance steps to the right of the handrail?

We don't know that Officer Baker ascended the front entrance steps to the right of the handrail-------it looks rather congested compared to the left hand side, doesn't it!

If Mr Oswald is PrayerMan in Darnell, then he is probably still in the PrayerMan spot at the time Officer Baker hits those steps
------------a good person for Officer Baker to ask for help in finding the stairs ('Hey, do you work here?') 

The one thing I am quite certain about is that Mr Oswald was right behind Mr Lovelady at the time the shots were fired!

It's the reason for
----------the second 'Lovelady' head in Wiegman
----------the fact that a magic shadow has been added down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman!

[Royell Storing]

        With regard to Oswald being "very Probably PrayerMan" in the Darnell still frame you posted above, try looking again.  PrayerMan from hip-to-hip in your Darnell Still Frame does Not have the slender/slight body build that Oswald had. Hip-To-Hip not even close.

[John Iacoletti]

Please point out these alleged hips.

[Alan Ford]

        With regard to Oswald being "very Probably PrayerMan" in the Darnell still frame you posted above, try looking again.  PrayerMan from hip-to-hip in your Darnell Still Frame does Not have the slender/slight body build that Oswald had. Hip-To-Hip not even close.

The forum's self-appointed Methodological Sage is back, not 24 hours after his Olympian posturing was exposed for the utter sham it is.

And now the man who claimed not to be even able to find Mr Frazier in Wiegman is lecturing me on how to look at Darnell...

No shame----and no credibility!