Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2019, 02:49:47 PM »
Now!

One of the most curious mind-episodes in this whole affair is this definitive statement in this 3/2/64 FBI report:



Mr Lovelady later denied having told the FBI this------------he just arrived for the photo session in any old shirt.



It's a shame that you're so recalcitrant Mr Ford....   You could be one of the best researchers of this case.....

Unlikely! Would the FBI, with their sensitivity to the Altgens controversy, have been so casual as to drastically misunderstand Mr Lovelady-----or to fail to have communicated to Mr Lovelady beforehand that he was to wear his 11/22/63 shirt for the photographs?

Theory!

The FBI gave Mr Lovelady the short-sleeved shirt to wear* because they needed him in short sleeves
------------> because the Wiegman film showed Mr Oswald's exposed right arm (he had his sleeves rolled up**) appearing to come out of Mr Lovelady's body!

Then, as soon as the Wiegman frame was... 'enhanced' and evidence of Mr Oswald's presence blackened out, Mr Lovelady's red plaid shirt could come out of the closet!

* Just wondering aloud... Did the FBI give the same shirt to Mr Eddie Piper for his photo?



** Mr Oswald in short sleeves would of course lend further support to the PrayerMan=LHO claim

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2019, 05:05:35 PM »
How do you know what Oswald would interpret as a P.Parade?

Because in your narrative, Reid had already told Oswald that the president was shot. So he then decides to go outside and watch the P. Parade?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #128 on: October 27, 2019, 12:25:43 AM »
Baker was made to cross out  'drinking a coke'....


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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #129 on: October 27, 2019, 02:57:22 PM »
Yes I did and I even I provided evidence of what was vehicles on Elm street supposedly @12:40, whereas you said their was a photographic/film record that could show what was happening a few minutes later but as usual your mouth exceeds your abilities.

Where's your evidence that you said you had?

After the last sentence, another lazy "water" reference loses all impact.

Thanks, I wish I had half his photographic knowledge.

I see, said the blind man.

JohnM

     JOHN - You well know that "vehicles on Elm St" at roughly 12:40 were NOT part of the JFK Motorcade/Parade.  When Darnell filmed the BUS and that Cop Car going under the Triple underpass THAT was the Official End of the JFK Motorcade. If you have doubts, just look up the schematic of the JFK motorcade. You said it took "a few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade/Parade to exit Dealey Plaza. If you want to retract Your Claim and the ensuing timelines of Images and Individuals that claim Altered, just do so. STOP trying to manipulate the vehicles that were Officially included/documented as being in the JFK Motorcade/Parade.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #130 on: October 27, 2019, 04:00:49 PM »
Baker was made to cross out  'drinking a coke'....



Yes....You're right....   Baker was deep into the lie created by his superiors when he appeared before the warren Commission..    So it was no big deal for him to cross out the "drinking a coke" entry that was deliberately written into that affidavit by the FBI agent who actually wrote the affidavit.    If that entry was not correct,the agent could easily have rewritten the affidavit and omitted that "drinking a coke " entry....but the scratch out  ( which left the entry still readable) was the whole idea behind that key piece of the deception.   

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #131 on: October 27, 2019, 06:08:29 PM »
Because in your narrative, Reid had already told Oswald that the president was shot. So he then decides to go outside and watch the P. Parade?

No, in the actually what happened narrative, Oswald was watching the motorcade from the 6th floor and knew precisely that he shot Kennedy, so Reid's comments would have had zero impact on Oswald.

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #132 on: October 27, 2019, 06:17:07 PM »
     JOHN - You well know that "vehicles on Elm St" at roughly 12:40 were NOT part of the JFK Motorcade/Parade.  When Darnell filmed the BUS and that Cop Car going under the Triple underpass THAT was the Official End of the JFK Motorcade. If you have doubts, just look up the schematic of the JFK motorcade. You said it took "a few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade/Parade to exit Dealey Plaza. If you want to retract Your Claim and the ensuing timelines of Images and Individuals that claim Altered, just do so. STOP trying to manipulate the vehicles that were Officially included/documented as being in the JFK Motorcade/Parade.

When discussing the visual record you need to illustrate and prove your evidence, asking me to find your evidence is incredibly lazy and has a huge impact on any credibility that you had left.
Btw what was the exact timestamp of the Darnell footage I posted?

JohnM