Gus Rose

[Walt Cakebread]

This in a nut shell shows why the WC had nothing to fear from the lazy LN crowd. Researchers look for any inconsistency, then try to work out why it exists.

It's beyond questionable. Fritz met with Decker and discussed the case immediately after having been tipped off by Truly. This means Fritz would have known he needed some of Decker's men while talking to Decker. Decker would have notified his guys and dispatched them to arrive in sync with the Fritz detectives. Elementary.

Irving,Texas, ..was out of the DPD's jurisdiction.   Dallas police had no legal right to be entering homes and searching in Irving.  Decker was the Sheriff  and Irving was in his jurisdiction.    The DPD grabbed evidence from the Paine house and garage that they had no legal authority to take.    They claimed that Ruth Paine had given them the evidence, but Ruth Paine had no legal right to give them any of the Oswald's possessions.

[John Iacoletti]

Y’all love to find conflicting information. And you get a brownie point for that. What have you accomplished other than pointing out that Fritz’s memory of who told him might not agree with what is written in RH?

It's worse than that.  Vince claimed that Oswald told Fritz about the 1026 Beckley address between 2:25 and 2:30, and his cited source for that information is a document that doesn't actually say that.  Which is why it's important to actually follow the citations when an author makes a claim like that.  Vince was either incredibly sloppy or he was hoping that nobody would check.

[John Iacoletti]

Yet, after almost 56-years of trying, there is no credible evidence of a conspiracy. Why don't you try to work out why that exists?

The "credible" qualifier just allows you to disregard anything that doesn't fit in to your narrative.

[Walt Cakebread]

It's worse than that.  Vince claimed that Oswald told Fritz about the 1026 Beckley address between 2:25 and 2:30, and his cited source for that information is a document that doesn't actually say that.  Which is why it's important to actually follow the citations when an author makes a claim like that.  Vince was either incredibly sloppy or he was hoping that nobody would check.

Fritz wanted it to appear that Lee was uncooperative and evasive.....When in reality  Lee himself told Fritz that he rented a room at 1026 N. Beckley.

[Bill Chapman]

Well I am sorry they failed to interrogate Fritz further. These guys just seem to forget lots of little things. I wonder why Vince made up the conversation where Oswald told Fritz.....much neater isn’t it? Even footnoted.....wonder what that says.

"… You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem…"

Pink Floyd

These guys just seem to forget lots of little things

LOL

Is there anything in your life that isn't larded with sinister intent?

[Charles Collins]

It's worse than that.  Vince claimed that Oswald told Fritz about the 1026 Beckley address between 2:25 and 2:30, and his cited source for that information is a document that doesn't actually say that.  Which is why it's important to actually follow the citations when an author makes a claim like that.  Vince was either incredibly sloppy or he was hoping that nobody would check.

The questions that Colin asked that I responded with the source note for were:

What did Michael say to the WC? When did Ruth and Marina say? Buddy Wathers testified too. When did the first cops arrive at 1026 North Beckley? Are these times all consistent with 3.30 entry for Rose and the others? I believe that time to be too late because there never was a 40 minute delay waiting for Walthers, Weatherford and Oxford.

Is there any footnote for that quote? Their time of arrival is obviously significant. I contend that by 3.30pm, Marina, Ruth, Michael and Linnie May would all have been aware he was in custody via media.

My answer was:

When did the first cops arrive at 1026 North Beckley? Are these times all consistent with 3.30 entry for Rose and the others?

On page 116 of “Reclaiming History,” it states that LHO told Fritz about the 1026 Beckley address between 2:25 and 2:30. And he sends Cunningham Senkel and Potts there to search his room. So I don’t see why you believe that the time of their arrival at 1026 North Beckley is relevant to this discussion.

As you can see I was merely showing that the time of the arrival of the officers at the Paine's was not relevant to the time of the arrival of the officers at the North Beckley address. Then Colin relpied:

Mr. BALL. Yes. What did you do after you had sent the officers to Irving?
Mr. FRITZ. When I started to talk to this prisoner or maybe just before I started to talk to him, some officer told me outside of my office that he had a room on Beckley, I don't know who that officer was, I think we can find out, I have since I have talked to you this morning I have talked to Lieutenant Baker and he says I know maybe who that officer was, but I am not sure yet.
Mr. BALL. Some officer told you that he thought this man had a room on Beckley?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.

That’s what Fritz actually testified.

However, if Colin had been complete (and/or honest)  in his "research" he would have found that the testimony of Fritz didn't end there. Please read on past where Colin left off and you will see what Bugliosi based his interpretation on. The testimony is a little convoluted, as many of them are, and I am currently unable to cut and paste it here, so you will have to look it up yourself. However, Bugliosi's interpretation appears reasonable to me.



The prior footnote in RH was 604. 4 H 207, 210,214 WCT John Will Fritz. That is the source note for the part of the dialogue concerning how Fritz obtained the address. The 605. CE 2003, 24 H 286 source note is an additional source that confirms the officers were sent to the North Beckley address (which is the question I was responding to when I posted it).

[Charles Collins]

The "credible" qualifier just allows you to disregard anything that doesn't fit in to your narrative.

Have you ever seen the connect the dots games? Where you connect the dots (periods) then see what the picture is?

The CT version has no dots (periods), only question marks.