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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2019, 03:20:14 PM »
Thanks Steve
Sure, you're welcome.

It raises an obvious (to me) question: Why would there be a empty blanket shaped like that with the ends tied together? It's just an empty blanket. Why not fold it and just put it somewhere? Like this (photo of the actual blanket):



It's clear to me that somebody went through the motions of making it look like something was still inside the blanket. They "shaped" it to appear that way and they re-tied the empty ends of it.

Why? For what purpose? And who had "access" to this to do so? If there wasn't a rifle in it then what's an alternate explanation for the blanket being "shaped" and tied to make it appear something was still in it. Again, why?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2019, 03:35:57 PM »
Primary sources, folks. "The interview" took place long after the fact, to assist a for profit project. Sensation sells...





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Is there a reason you did not include page 3?

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« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2019, 07:27:47 PM »
Hopefully you can see the difference between the book quote and the original statement. Bugliosi likely used the report. I contend that the 3.30pm time for greeting Marina is dubious.

Yes, I see the difference. For what it is worth, I found the following at this web page: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKpaine.htm

According to fellow worker, Dave Noel, Michael Paine discussed the "character of assassins" a few hours before President John F. Kennedy was killed. He also returned to his home in Irving at 3.00 p.m. to find Dallas police officers searching the premises. He told the police: "As soon as I found out about it, I hurried over to see if I could help."

It isn't clear to me whether he is referring to the time Michael Paine left work, or the time he arrived at his home. My guess is that he left work at 3:00. How would a coworker know what time he arrived at home?

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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2019, 09:05:01 PM »
Camping equipment.
What evidence is there that the Oswald's owned any actual camping equipment? Yes, I am aware that Michael Paine said that at first he thought it might be some sort of camping equipment. Is there any evidence whatsoever that they ever went camping? Lee Oswald lived for long stretches of time on unemployment checks. He had no car, no savings, no phone, no house. Yet he had camping equipment for what purpose?

Second, why would it be necessary to arrange the blanket to make it look like it was camping equipment? If there was a camping/tent pole in the blanket, why remove that pole and then make the blanket appear to look like the pole was still in it?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2019, 09:53:11 PM »
What evidence is there that the Oswald's owned any actual camping equipment? Yes, I am aware that Michael Paine said that at first he thought it might be some sort of camping equipment. Is there any evidence whatsoever that they ever went camping? Lee Oswald lived for long stretches of time on unemployment checks. He had no car, no savings, no phone, no house. Yet he had camping equipment for what purpose?

Second, why would it be necessary to arrange the blanket to make it look like it was camping equipment? If there was a camping/tent pole in the blanket, why remove that pole and then make the blanket appear to look like the pole was still in it?

Exactly.

On the other hand, maybe Marina's gasp was at the thought of never getting to go camping again
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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2019, 11:13:59 PM »
Sure, you're welcome.

It raises an obvious (to me) question: Why would there be a empty blanket shaped like that with the ends tied together? It's just an empty blanket. Why not fold it and just put it somewhere? Like this (photo of the actual blanket):



It's clear to me that somebody went through the motions of making it look like something was still inside the blanket. They "shaped" it to appear that way and they re-tied the empty ends of it.

Why? For what purpose? And who had "access" to this to do so? If there wasn't a rifle in it then what's an alternate explanation for the blanket being "shaped" and tied to make it appear something was still in it. Again, why?

Were both ends still tied Steve? My recollection was that one end had loose string.

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« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2019, 11:20:09 PM »
Yes, I see the difference. For what it is worth, I found the following at this web page: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKpaine.htm

According to fellow worker, Dave Noel, Michael Paine discussed the "character of assassins" a few hours before President John F. Kennedy was killed. He also returned to his home in Irving at 3.00 p.m. to find Dallas police officers searching the premises. He told the police: "As soon as I found out about it, I hurried over to see if I could help."

It isn't clear to me whether he is referring to the time Michael Paine left work, or the time he arrived at his home. My guess is that he left work at 3:00. How would a coworker know what time he arrived at home?

What did Michael say to the WC? When did Ruth and Marina say? Buddy Wathers testified too. When did the first cops arrive at 1026 North Beckley? Are these times all consistent with 3.30 entry for Rose and the others? I believe that time to be too late because there never was a 40 minute delay waiting for Walthers, Weatherford and Oxford.