Tippit Shooting, 1:15

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #525 on: November 19, 2019, 08:31:17 PM »
I used to own a S&W .38 special revolver. So I fully understand how it works. And it was not unusual for me to extract the spent shells one at a time (especially when I first started using it). And your stated conclusion that it had to be a different type of gun because of the one-at-a-time-extraction allegation just doesn't make any sense.
Good grief! Loading and unloading a Smith&Wesson .38 for Dummies-----


 

 

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #526 on: November 19, 2019, 08:38:05 PM »
You know what else is simple?
Simply put?
Police...."Oswald was the guy you saw shoot the cop...did you see the guy shoot the cop?"

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #527 on: November 19, 2019, 08:52:16 PM »


He might have held the shells by the rim. Even if he didn't, shells don't have much surface area for a print. Neither does a trigger. Police dust such small areas in the off-chance there might be a print. It's possible but unlikely.

Also fingers aren't always casting off prints; the pores could be clean is they touch something absorbent and it will be awhile before sweat is present again.

Possibly, but not probably, IMO. LHO had to take the ammo out of the box and insert the bullets into the gun which surely would have left at least 1 print on 1 of the shells. The problem here is that there is no way to link hulls with the slugs.

I also don't get why there were no prints on the handgun. Shouldn't LHO's lack of prints in the SN on the MC and the handgun give you pause? Legally, isn't that too few prints to implicate the shooter and doesn't it make LHO the patsy instead?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #528 on: November 19, 2019, 08:52:51 PM »
Good grief! Loading and unloading a Smith&Wesson .38 for Dummies-----


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Oswald used this gun?
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #529 on: November 19, 2019, 08:56:03 PM »
Good grief! Loading and unloading a Smith&Wesson .38 for Dummies-----


This video doesn’t address the 11/22/63 situation that LHO had. It doesn’t include spent shells, which expand and are held in place by friction. And it especially doesn’t include the mismatched .38 special ammunition spent shells (for the re-chambered gun). Which was testified, by an expert, as being “very difficult” to eject by that method.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #530 on: November 19, 2019, 09:02:49 PM »
How does removing them ONE AT A TIME (even in all caps) equate to it meaning that it was easy?

Well it sure as hell wasn't difficult ....Benavides said nothing about the killer struggling to remove a spent shell.....And if you'd extract your head perhaps you could see that Cunningham said that ALL THE SHELLS ARE REMOVED AT ONCE from the S&W revolver.   ...And Cunningham said that they are very difficult to remove.

Mr. EISENBERG. I would like the record to show that when Mr. Cunningham tipped the revolver, the unfired bullet tipped out, but the five expended shells remained in.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Cunningham, would you show how you would eject the five expended shells?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. yes. These are very difficult, by the way, to extract, due to the fact that the chamber has been rechambered. And as you can see, you get on your cartridge cases a little ballooning with these smaller diameter cases in the .38 Special.

You are running around in circles.  Here is what you claimed:   "Because the witnesses, Starting with Dom Benavides DESCRIBE the ease with which the killer removes the spent shells ONE AT A TIME."

Not saying anything about whether it appeared difficult to remove the shells doesn't mean that Benavides DESCRIBED Oswald "easily" removing the shells as you have falsely claimed.  It just means that Benavides made no observation whatsoever on that point.  All he said was that he saw Oswald remove and throw them after murdering Tippit.   Who again?  Oswald.     

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #531 on: November 19, 2019, 09:23:06 PM »
All he said was that he saw Oswald remove and throw them after murdering Tippit.   Who again?  Oswald.   

Mr. BENAVIDES - Later on that evening, about 4 o'clock, there was two officers came by and asked for me, Mr. Callaway asked me---I had told them that I had seen the officer, and the reporters were there and I was trying to hide from the reporters because they will just bother you all the time.
Then I found out that they thought this was the guy that killed the President. At the time I didn't know the President was dead or he had been shot.
I was just trying to hide from the reporters and everything, and these two officers came around and asked me if I'd seen him, and I told him yes, and told them what I had seen, and they asked me if I could identify him, and I said I don't think I could. At this time I was sure, I wasn't sure that I could or not. I wasn't going to say I could identify and go down and couldn't have.
Mr. BELIN - Did he ever take you to the police station and ask you if you could identify him?
Mr. BENAVIDES - No; they didn't.